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[Albion] Pep's gone a bit "teams like Brighton"...



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nickbrighton

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Feb 19, 2016
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It would seem that Peps status as the greatest manager to walk the earth ever-is again in serious doubt. Following the "City are back" comments by pundits and papers following the beating of a pretty bad Ipswich side, the failings have again been exposed for all to see. City are giving away 2 goal leads more regularly than us!

A truly "great" manager would have by now turned City around, or at least got them able to hold on to 2 goal leads.

Pep is a fantastic manager of successful teams and squads, but its starting to look that the man isn't as good when faced with that same squad regularly under performing.

Loving it
 








Beanstalk

Beanstalk

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Apr 5, 2017
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nickbrighton said:
It would seem that Peps status as the greatest manager to walk the earth ever-is again in serious doubt. Following the "City are back" comments by pundits and papers following the beating of a pretty bad Ipswich side, the failings have again been exposed for all to see. City are giving away 2 goal leads more regularly than us!

A truly "great" manager would have by now turned City around, or at least got them able to hold on to 2 goal leads.

Pep is a fantastic manager of successful teams and squads, but its starting to look that the man isn't as good when faced with that same squad regularly under performing.

Loving it
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I'm not sure that status is in doubt and ever will be. What he's achieved in terms of trophies is remarkable, but he's also changed the game completely. Could you have imagined non-league sides playing a possession based passing game 20 years ago?

There are however huge question marks about his ability to maintain his level over a sustained period of time in a way that the behemoths of a previous era (Wenger, Ferguson, Clough) did. He burned out after four years at Barca, he burned out after 3 years at Bayern and now he's been at City for 9 years. There has always been a question of when the end to his time at City will arrive and perhaps we've reached that point and unlike before, he's not seen the hints that it's time to walk away. He's taken City from one of the best sides in England to the best team in the world in a pretty relentless fashion over the longest tenure of his career. The new contract is bizarre, especially with Txiki Begiristain leaving his side, and having won everything possible at City. Where does he go from here?

FWIW, I'm thoroughly enjoying City finally faltering. I do think that Pep will either get through it and come back in his usual relentless fashion, or it'll be the end of his career. He's clearly been on the edge of a mental health crisis recently and with the reports that his wife has left him, you do wonder how much drive he's got left in him.
 








brighton_tom

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Jul 23, 2008
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A good tactical manager, who motivates his players well, but has always been a cheque book manager. Every club, every transfer window, hundreds of millions spent.
 


Stumpy Tim

Stumpy Tim

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Jul 6, 2003
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Back in Brighton. Well Hove actually
brighton_tom said:
A good tactical manager, who motivates his players well, but has always been a cheque book manager. Every club, every transfer window, hundreds of millions spent.
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While this is true, there have been plenty of managers with lots of money who haven't been successful. Pep consistently has
 
















Green Cross Code Man

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Swegulls said:
Pretty sure some will 😀 Personally I don’t really care, at the same time he’ll have won everything there is to win. That’s okey I think.
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The real test of whether pep is any good at all is managing England. Failing that, somewhere like Rochdale. Even pep admits he's had an easy ride.
 




Swegulls

Swegulls

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Green Cross Code Man said:
The real test of whether pep is any good at all is managing England. Failing that, somewhere like Rochdale. Even pep admits he's had an easy ride.
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Rochdale, currently in 8 place… I think we got a new Netflix series here, ”Play to survive”-ish.

Episode 1: Five famous managers, Klopp, Pep, Ancelotti and two others attend The Big Draw. Five teams, currently 6-10 in the National League will get new managers in that draw.

They get a set budget and two seasons to improve. Who will be the Super gaffer!?

Netflix: you can send some money to Green Cross Code Man and Swegulls Productions
 




Guinness Boy

Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Very interesting. As is the fact that we come in almost dead centre. I think it backs up why people struggled with what our style is. We are right in the middle between fast direct football and slower tactical passing.
 


aolstudios

aolstudios

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Nov 30, 2011
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Makes you think...
 

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Ike and Tina Burner

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Mar 22, 2019
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Pep is like a certain type of F1 driver. Great in a great car, shit in a shit car. Getting a tune out of these superstar teams is not simple, as has been proven at PSG, United, Chelsea etc... That's where his talent lies. He's not the best football manager of all time, by any stretch, but he is the best at however you want to describe that specific type of management role.
 


Dave the OAP

Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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at home
talking about pep and our way of doing things

the three purchases in this window are all to be either starting or in the match day squad for this weekend.

no giving them “ time” to work out how to play the “ Brighton” way or bought just to be farmed out on loan.

for us old farts who want to see people we spend money on in the starting x1 straight away this is heartwarming.
 


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