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[Football] Yasin Ayari









One Teddy Maybank

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As a Swede, I’ve never found anything particularly special about Ayari. I’ve always struggled to understand why the manager sees him as a starter for Brighton (And for the Swedish national team, for that matter). I assume it largely comes down to injuries.

How I see Ayari at the moment:


* Needs to build strength
- Physically, he’s not yet Premier League ready—he’s a bit too weak. Baleba should share his summer training schedule with him so he can return next season with a few extra kilos of muscle.
* Lacks involvement - When we’re attacking or playing possession football (in the attacking half), he doesn’t make himself available and often hides behind opponents.
* Poor set pieces: His free kicks and corners are not good enough. In the last game, he took a terrible free kick that, with some luck, reached the penalty area. After some chaotic play, we managed to score. Today was similar, but the goal was disallowed. But our corners in general has been poor for a few years now.
* He's very inconsistent; one game, he might perform well, but in the next, he could be downright terrible.. but I guess that goes for entire team this season.
* He is a fighter though, similar to Gross, which was mentioned in the thread.

I’ve noticed steady improvement each month. Considering he’s only 21, I’m confident he’ll continue to develop, much like Baleba, and could (with training, game play and luck) become a key player for us within 1-2 seasons.
About the only bit I agree with is the set pieces and a bit more strength, and MOR you can label set-pieces at most of our players in the last 50 years….

Have liked him from the word ‘go’, can’t remember who he debuted against as a sub after signing, but even then was always available finding small pockets of space and clearly had a footballing brain and talent.

Every game he gets stronger, ultimately likely to be a rotational squad player, but playing really well.
 








Taybha

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I'd like to know why he wears plimsolls instead of football boots,just imagine how many free kicks we'd score from if he wore studs when he takes a free kick.

However,studs or not he certainly had by far, his best game for us v Man Utd, very impressed,and pleasantly surprised tbh.
 










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I'd like to know why he wears plimsolls instead of football boots,just imagine how many free kicks we'd score from if he wore studs when he takes a free kick.

However,studs or not he certainly had by far, his best game for us v Man Utd, very impressed,and pleasantly surprised tbh.
As you say not easy in Dunlop green flash plimsoll’s
 


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His main assets is his physical and mental attributes. The stamina and fearlessness. He's played for AIK so you know as well as I do that he can handle all kinds of pressure. As for his running he has always been known for his intensity - he LOVES running - and its paying off for him.

If Ayari - constantly running for 90 minutes - isn't physically ready for the Premier League, then what is Wieffer or Milner who can't get near the pitch? To me, and the injury list agrees, he seems like one of our fittest players.

Agree that he sometimes end up in the shadows when we're attacking.

Disagree with him being inconsistent or any more inconsistent than any of our other players. Quite the opposite: we consistently play better with Ayari on the pitch than without him.

He's already a key player now. Most of your critisism isn't necessarily unfair but you make it sound like there's a dozen options who should be starting instead for both Sweden (för vi har ju så jävla bra innermittfältare?) and for Brighton.

But is that really the case? Many many midfielders have been given chances for us this season and either haven't performed or breaks down every five minutes. James Milner, Mats Weiffer and Jack Hinshelwood can be however supergood they want in some sort of magical theoretical world; in reality Ayari is the guy who has shown he has the body and brain to turn up every week in this league, instantly making him better and a more worthy starter than all our imaginary midfielders.
I am glad you wrote that , saved me the bother. The guy has been immense and consistent and for me he's the second best midfielder we have though it will be interesting to see how Hinshelwood does when he comes back. I said it before , its no good talking about Wieffer or Milner or Jack if they aren't going to be fit all the time. Ayari has been knocked about a lot and just keeps going. Sure he needs to improve in certain aspects but so far he is delivering more in midfield that two of our £25-30 million signings by a VERY long way.
 






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I'll stick my chin out ... he reminds me a bit of Ali Mac, his constant movement, cover a lot of ground, toughness and so on. As I remember it my heartrate didn't increase when Ali Mac used to come on as a sub, early in his BHA-career. I guess I yawned mostly. We all know what happened to him in just a year or so.

Now, I think todays Ayari is better than that version of Ali Mac I used to yawn at, coming on as a sub (I know, it's not the same as being a starter, but anyway...). That of course doesn't mean that he will be as good as Ali Mac, or that Sweden will win the World Cup ;)

TBH, I didn't think Ayari would still be a BHA player at this moment. Looked a bit lightweight for the PL. At his age, one year can do a lot!
 
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sussex_guy2k2

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I am glad you wrote that , saved me the bother. The guy has been immense and consistent and for me he's the second best midfielder we have though it will be interesting to see how Hinshelwood does when he comes back. I said it before , its no good talking about Wieffer or Milner or Jack if they aren't going to be fit all the time. Ayari has been knocked about a lot and just keeps going. Sure he needs to improve in certain aspects but so far he is delivering more in midfield that two of our £25-30 million signings by a VERY long way.
This. People also overlook how tactically taxing playing those 2x number 8/10 roles is in FHs system.

I think he’s been a fabulous addition to our squad this year who’s far surpassed by initial expectations of him.

I don’t think he has the ceiling of a Baleba, but I see no reason why a Weiffer or Milner would get that position back from him.
 




Zeberdi

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I'll stick my chin out ... he reminds me a bit of Ali Mac, his constant movement, cover a lot of ground, toughness and so on. As I remember it my heartrate didn't increase when Ali Mac used to come on as a sub, early in his BHA-career. I guess I yawned mostly. We all know what happened to him in just a year or so.

Now, I think todays Ayari is better than that version of Ali Mac I used to yawn at, coming on as a sub (I know, it's not the same as being a starter, but anyway...). That of course doesn't mean that he will be as good as Ali Mac, or that Sweden will win the World Cup ;)

TBH, I didn't think Ayari would still be a BHA player at this moment. Looked a bit lightweight for the PL. At his age, one year can do a lot!
See what you mean but he reminds me more of Billy Gimour tbh both in his physique, mentality and skill (he’s our Angel Gomes!)

In recent live matches, Ayari is the player that has most caught my eye - not because he is the best on the pitch but on and off the ball, he always seems to move with more purpose and intelligence than the players around him.

Technically he is as good as WBG and the workhorse attitude is similar. WBG got into our regular starts because he fought hard for it and his efforts on the pitch were 110% - that gets rewarded by managers. Ayari didn’t really stick out for me until this season, His loan spells were unremarkable at best. I thought we would lend him out again this summer but he is proving to be a testament to Fabian’s eye for developing young players imo and the decision not to send him out on loan again is proving the right one. This season because of injuries to Milner, O’Reilly and Wieffer we have probably used him more than we would have but he’s maximised that opportunity. His intensity is refreshing and he sustains it too. Players like Ayari up the tempo and improve the intensity of the whole team.

For me (and the reasons why I think Fabian likes him so much)
  • He’s the player most likely to score out of ‘nothing’
  • He is one of the best progressers of the ball on the pitch
  • He’s positionally versatile and can follow the ball
  • He willingly tracks back to defend
  • His passing is consistently good and well timed
  • Off the ball he attacks the space and reads the play
It’s not been easy for players that are used as wide midfielders like Ayari to carve a role in FH’s system as he tends to use false 9s - (Rutter and Pedro dropping into CAM ) also O’Reilly (and Wieffer) was brought in for that central midfielder role. However, for me O’Reilly is not at a level we need him to be (as I have mentioned a few times on match threads) - maybe he is one for a summer loan? Ayari is ahead of him now in the pecking order IMO and his versatility ensures him a place in FH’s plans - a January signing that might prove as important as Ally Mac.
 
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I'd like to know why he wears plimsolls instead of football boots,just imagine how many free kicks we'd score from if he wore studs when he takes a free kick.

However,studs or not he certainly had by far, his best game for us v Man Utd, very impressed,and pleasantly surprised tbh.
Crap free kick Ipswich….we scored
Crap free kick v Man U…….we scored (although disallowed)

Let the boy slip :lolol:
 


southstandandy

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Certainly the surprise package from the summer. How many thought he play so many games this season for us?

Well done to the lad. A long way from being perfect but he's certainly a grafter and really hard working player and is deserving of his chance.
 


schmunk

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I'll stick my chin out ... he reminds me a bit of Ali Mac, his constant movement, cover a lot of ground, toughness and so on. As I remember it my heartrate didn't increase when Ali Mac used to come on as a sub, early in his BHA-career. I guess I yawned mostly. We all know what happened to him in just a year or so.

Now, I think todays Ayari is better than that version of Ali Mac I used to yawn at, coming on as a sub (I know, it's not the same as being a starter, but anyway...). That of course doesn't mean that he will be as good as Ali Mac, or that Sweden will win the World Cup ;)

TBH, I didn't think Ayari would still be a BHA player at this moment. Looked a bit lightweight for the PL. At his age, one year can do a lot!
It's worth noting that Ayari is now the same age as Ali Mac was for his FIRST Albion appearance, so there's definitely still room for growth!
 




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Did the club KNOW when we let Gilmour leave that we had an almost ready replacement, or is it just fortuitous ???
 


sussex_guy2k2

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Did the club KNOW when we let Gilmour leave that we had an almost ready replacement, or is it just fortuitous ???
In fairness, there’s no way Gilmour would’ve played the Ayari role. Had he stayed, he’d have likely played the Baleba role (as he did in his MotM performance at home to Man Utd) and Baleba would’ve pushed further forward. But that’s all conjecture.
 


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