That's not true at all. I am a rugby ref and there is plenty of room for interpretation. Most notably if the tackler goes low and the ball carrier ducks into the challenge, that's a clear mitigating circumstance - in fact, if the ball carrier is too low, they could be the one penalised. Or the instance I saw in a game a week ago, where the tackler was pushed into position by his fellow player, that wasn't deemed a red card either. Or it could be that the tackler slipped and while falling, struck the ball carrier. Or if it's not direct contact but slips up to hit the head.The protocol these days is to award a yellow and see if there are any mitigating circumstances
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[Albion] Pedro's "challenge" on Walton
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That's not true at all. I am a rugby ref and there is plenty of room for interpretation. Most notably if the tackler goes low and the ball carrier ducks into the challenge, that's a clear mitigating circumstance - in fact, if the ball carrier is too low, they could be the one penalised. Or the instance I saw in a game a week ago, where the tackler was pushed into position by his fellow player, that wasn't deemed a red card either. Or it could be that the tackler slipped and while falling, struck the ball carrier. Or if it's not direct contact but slips up to hit the head.The protocol these days is to award a yellow and see if there are any mitigating circumstances
Guy Fawkes
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No attempt to slow himself, well apart from the 9th to the start of the 11th second in the clip, where you can see he tries to slow himself and no longer sprinting flat out, and then the collision happens at almost the beginning of the 12 second (still the 11th, just) so i'm not sure how quickly you'd expect him to have been able to stop ?
Uh_huh_him
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Listening to the Football Ramble.
Consensus was not a red.
Funny that, I'd heard on here that all football fans were amazed, that Pedro had escaped life imprisonment.
Consensus was not a red.
Funny that, I'd heard on here that all football fans were amazed, that Pedro had escaped life imprisonment.
SeagullinExile
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He didn’t hit his head, it was his upper torso.
they always speak to VAR - if you listen to the Mic'd up show. And i think that's right.
'All football fans' usually just means the first 3 hysterical comments under a social media post, read over ones cornflakes in the morning.
With my Brighton hat on why did Pedro chose to jump prior to the collision it made it look worse and he certainly clattered Walton (who had a good game) it definitely was a foul but not sure it was anything more than that.
With my imaginary Ipswich hat on it was a straight red how anyone would say differently is beyond my comprehension I have just had a look on the Brighton fans forum and some of the nobs on there just think it was just a booking.
With my imaginary Ipswich hat on it was a straight red how anyone would say differently is beyond my comprehension I have just had a look on the Brighton fans forum and some of the nobs on there just think it was just a booking.
Nobby Cybergoat
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I just wonder if Hurzeler will take Joao Pedro out of the limelight for the next game. Maybe the lad needs a breather, physically and mentally.. Plus it's at Old Trafford, so the ref will be looking for any excuse to send him off.
Some sort of
Minteh -- Georginio --Mitoma
---------Welbeck
forward line
Some sort of
Minteh -- Georginio --Mitoma
---------Welbeck
forward line
Uh_huh_him
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I was thinking the same thing.
He's been at the centre of 3 decision "controversies" over the past couple of weeks.
Might be an idea to take him out of the limelight.
Surrey Phil
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I was wondering the same. At the moment Pedro looks like a red card waiting to happen. He’s getting a bit of a reputation which won’t have gone unnoticed by referees and opposition defenders. Perhaps for the United game it might be him coming on for Welbeck as a second half sub if the game needs livening up a bit. Give him a break. He’s worked hard up front in the absence of Welbeck.
Thought it was a red immediately - and was surprised to see the ref chatting in his microphone (presumably to the linesmen - because I assume you're not meant to talk to the VAR lot until you've made your decision) then getting his yellow card out.
To me it looked a deliberate leap - it didn't look to be 'pulling out' of a collision, and it wasn't 'going for the ball' either; the ball was nowhere near where he went.
And the other thing was that he didn't go and see how Walton was until quite some time (maybe after his yellow?). If that was an accidental coming together - surely he would have immediately looked to see how Walton was and they could have commiserated together?
Seemed deliberate and out of control to me, and if he'd been sent off I would have had no issues/complaints.
To me it looked a deliberate leap - it didn't look to be 'pulling out' of a collision, and it wasn't 'going for the ball' either; the ball was nowhere near where he went.
And the other thing was that he didn't go and see how Walton was until quite some time (maybe after his yellow?). If that was an accidental coming together - surely he would have immediately looked to see how Walton was and they could have commiserated together?
Seemed deliberate and out of control to me, and if he'd been sent off I would have had no issues/complaints.
All i know is if somone ran through Pedro like that he’d still be flat out out on the pitch 3 hours later
seagullsovergrimsby
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Not a foul , both players knew they were going to collide.
darkwolf666
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Just about sums it up, perfectly...
American Seagle
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It is clear he knew what he was doing. It was a classic "accidentally deliberately" not avoiding the big collision.
He has had a few recently that could easily have been red cards with a different referee. He is walking a fine line. Hopefully he calms down before he gets a reputation.
He has had a few recently that could easily have been red cards with a different referee. He is walking a fine line. Hopefully he calms down before he gets a reputation.
darkwolf666
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No Elbow - not a red card
Legitimate challenge on keeper - not a red card
Constant trolling of Brighton players - on ignore...!
oldboyroy
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My initial thoughts watching on TV was oh gawd what was Pedro thinking. Not a stonewall red but could've been an unnecessary red and other refs may have sent him off. It wasn't intentional but still rash?