fly high
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Thought they didn't want one or it would mean delaying the implementation of the new child welfare bill?
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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?
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ROSM
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I thought their position was that there wasn't any new evidence presented that hadn't already been covered by the previous inquiry.
If that has changed then their position would need to change too
I don't know any detail, I was talking to a person in the park while walking my dog, and he was moaning about labour start in office and said maybe they can get a bit of respect back from us voters by looking into the grooming gangs on a national inquiry, he said Yvette was speaking at 2pm. I hope his hunch is right. Those poor victims need it and the country needs to show we care. The cost is a worry, but the victims deserve this.
Since1982
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I'm genuinely intrigued by these sorts of comments - why would having another enquiry "show we care"? Surely there would be more care shown by the implementation of the 20 recommendations made by the enquiry that reported in 2022? Who knows what will be announced at 2 but I hope we have a govt with a bit more of a backbone than one which folds the minute Musk, Farage etc jump on a bandwagon.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Another enquiry would take five years like the previous enquiry thus delaying any help the poor victims would receive. Action is what is needed not more questions.
ROSM
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There can be questions if they are new questions to a new set of evidence. That I'm itself doesn't delay the implementation of recommendations from the previous inquiry. However if its the same scenarios revisited then it could delay the implementations as indeed happened with the taylor report delaying implementation of findings from the popplewell inquiry
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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It’s legally and socially a very difficult subject to discuss here or anywhere else.
1. There are allegations that have been made which have been censored.
2. Because those allegations were made by far right leaders, anyone who brings the matter up here or anywhere else is labelled far right.
1. There are allegations that have been made which have been censored.
2. Because those allegations were made by far right leaders, anyone who brings the matter up here or anywhere else is labelled far right.
Not necessarily.
Sarah Champion, Labour MP for Rotherham, who has quite bravely not taken the party line on this, has proposed that new inquiry(s) run alongside the implementation of the findings of the Jay Report:
superseagull1994
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- Jun 21, 2011
- 138
Probably the most sensible proposal
And another £200m+ that the original one (that the Tories did nothing about) cost.
But I do believe that the government should shell out for the Oldham inquiry rather than expecting them to fork out for it (which seems to be the route of this whole thing prior to Musk and the right wing media spinning it as an attack on Labour).
Iggle Piggle
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- Sep 3, 2010
- 6,127
Listening to the financial expert on Times radio this morning. Asked about the rate of inflation he opinied that "It was a complete fluke due to how the data was collected and will undoubtedly go up again next month"
I've no idea if he's right (but he is generally very good) but I do find it odd that this has seemingly calmed the markets temporarily. It's almost like it's all a massive guess up.
I've no idea if he's right (but he is generally very good) but I do find it odd that this has seemingly calmed the markets temporarily. It's almost like it's all a massive guess up.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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doesn't work like that. government and civil service cant or wont implement anything that's under inquiry, subject to change in foreseeable future. it will gum up everything.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
From the BBC live feed
As we've reported, Yvette Cooper is expected to announce new inquiries into child sexual abuse.
There have already been some local-level inquiries.
A report in 2020 found that police and social workers investigating child sex exploitation in Manchester knew children were suffering "the most profound abuse... but did not protect them".
It was commissioned by Andy Burnham, Mayor of Greater Manchester, in 2017, to focus on the handling of a police investigation into child exploitation in south Manchester, and the death of Victoria Agoglia.
In 2022, an inquiry commissioned by Oldham Council found that children in Oldham were failed by the agencies meant to protect them from sexual abuse.
In the same year, there was a local inquiry in Telford. This found obvious evidence of child sex crimes in Telford was ignored for generations leading to more than 1,000 girls being abused.
The inquiry was set up after the Sunday Mirror revealed gangs had been abusing girls in the town since the 1980s, external.
In 2014, a report by Alexis Jay - who went on to lead a national inquiry - estimated that 1,400 children were sexually exploited in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013.
Survivors of abuse in Oldham have called for a new investigation into historical child sex abuse cases in the town because they felt the local review was "too limited", and many of their voices had not been heard.
Grooming gang scandal: Home Secretary Yvette Cooper to announce new local inquiries into grooming gangs
The government's opponents, and some Labour MPs, have called on the government to hold a national inquiry.
www.bbc.co.uk
As we've reported, Yvette Cooper is expected to announce new inquiries into child sexual abuse.
There have already been some local-level inquiries.
A report in 2020 found that police and social workers investigating child sex exploitation in Manchester knew children were suffering "the most profound abuse... but did not protect them".
It was commissioned by Andy Burnham, Mayor of Greater Manchester, in 2017, to focus on the handling of a police investigation into child exploitation in south Manchester, and the death of Victoria Agoglia.
In 2022, an inquiry commissioned by Oldham Council found that children in Oldham were failed by the agencies meant to protect them from sexual abuse.
In the same year, there was a local inquiry in Telford. This found obvious evidence of child sex crimes in Telford was ignored for generations leading to more than 1,000 girls being abused.
The inquiry was set up after the Sunday Mirror revealed gangs had been abusing girls in the town since the 1980s, external.
In 2014, a report by Alexis Jay - who went on to lead a national inquiry - estimated that 1,400 children were sexually exploited in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013.
Survivors of abuse in Oldham have called for a new investigation into historical child sex abuse cases in the town because they felt the local review was "too limited", and many of their voices had not been heard.
Starmer’s revolting betrayal will never be forgiven
This Labour Government is acting against the British national interest. It cares more about ‘human rights’ than about its own citizens
telegraph.co.uk
RandyWanger
Je suis rôti de boeuf
It's an Ineptocracy. The least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves are rewarded with goods paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
Couldn't have written this article better myselfStarmer’s revolting betrayal will never be forgiven
This Labour Government is acting against the British national interest. It cares more about ‘human rights’ than about its own citizens
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
What a word salad.Starmer’s revolting betrayal will never be forgiven
This Labour Government is acting against the British national interest. It cares more about ‘human rights’ than about its own citizens
Just to correct the article on Chagos, for example.
Chagos was negotiated by James Cleverly in 2022.
Complete radio silence from the Tory led media.
In 2024 Labour win the general election.
The Tory led media immediately become incandescent with rage regarding Chagos, including the Tories that conducted the negotiations.
Do you agree that Trump / USA should buy/get Greenland?Couldn't have written this article better myself
"The “progressive realists” at the heart of our Government are horrified by Trump’s plan to buy Greenland to “make America even greater”;"
London Irish
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Useless clowns update - a hard right Tory-Reform government now looking inevitable