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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

Is Labour going to turn the country around

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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,103
Except….


However, Blackrock, a major investment management firm, has been actively investing in and acquiring farmland in the UK: Blackrock is launching a £100m hedge fund to buy up farmland across Britain .24 Nov 2024
any real source, looks a lot like a social media invention.
 
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Rdodge30

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2022
888
I see. A sort of conspiracy between civil servants, and HMG to build on farmland.
Presumably with massive back handers to the Labour party from 'Black rock'?
Or maybe family members of the cabinet are on the board of Black Rock?

If all this is true then it should deservedly bring down the government.

If only bits of it are true (the bits not involving family members of HMG making a fat wedge, or HMG allowing speculators to breach planning rules) then it would look like Labour meeting their election pledges.

Which is nice.

Unless you add in that Labour have made poor farmers pay a bit of inheritance tax in order to push them over the edge and into selling their farms for a pittance to developers. In other words a conspiracy of sorts.

I wonder what @abc (for I think it is he who as Insights) thinks.


I don’t think the Labour government are responsible at all, I was trying to point out that it is the very grey area of the mandarins that seems questionable if anything is.


You are always with the drama😆 - I certainly didn’t claim there were backhanders at all …

In the positive side, I’ve just found the entire episodes of TopCat and Wacky Racers on my “3.00kickoffstick” 😎
 


abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,442
I see. A sort of conspiracy between civil servants, and HMG to build on farmland.
Presumably with massive back handers to the Labour party from 'Black rock'?
Or maybe family members of the cabinet are on the board of Black Rock?

If all this is true then it should deservedly bring down the government.

If only bits of it are true (the bits not involving family members of HMG making a fat wedge, or HMG allowing speculators to breach planning rules) then it would look like Labour meeting their election pledges.

Which is nice.

Unless you add in that Labour have made poor farmers pay a bit of inheritance tax in order to push them over the edge and into selling their farms for a pittance to developers. In other words a conspiracy of sorts.

I wonder what @abc (for I think it is he who as Insights) thinks.

Government and local authorities have compulsory powers to buy any land for development whether roads or housing. So I can’t see why they would go to these lengths.

Personally I think the change to the farming IHT rules are just a massive misjudgement by Reeves who miscalculated both the farmer and public reaction along with the minimal financial gain. I don’t think she is clever enough to have come up with this conspiracy theory.
 


Rdodge30

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2022
888
Government and local authorities have compulsory powers to buy any land for development whether roads or housing. So I can’t see why they would go to these lengths.


IF it’s true, it’s not the government who will end up owning the land it’s the biggest financial institution in the world- who already own 15% of UK holdings apparently
 






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NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
57,336
Faversham
Government and local authorities have compulsory powers to buy any land for development whether roads or housing. So I can’t see why they would go to these lengths.

Personally I think the change to the farming IHT rules are just a massive misjudgement by Reeves who miscalculated both the farmer and public reaction along with the minimal financial gain. I don’t think she is clever enough to have come up with this conspiracy theory.
That was what I thought....
I don’t think the Labour government are responsible at all, I was trying to point out that it is the very grey area of the mandarins that seems questionable if anything is.


You are always with the drama😆 - I certainly didn’t claim there were backhanders at all …

In the positive side, I’ve just found the entire episodes of TopCat and Wacky Racers on my “3.00kickoffstick” 😎
I was just seeing if I could construct a working model. It isn't what I believe.

I don't understand things unless they are spelled out. If there are gaps in the narrative I try to fill them but am literally clueless. It's the autism.

Glad we are back to cordial, however :thumbsup:

Top Cat is awesome. But I found Wacky Races gave me cartoon repetitive strain injuries :drool:
 




Rdodge30

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2022
888
I think @beorhthelm is correct, it’s a lie made up on social media last autumn.


It may well be - well the civil service side of it might, the Blackrock holdings are public knowledge.

When I first heard about the wish list though I did think back to when all the Labour leaders came out against WFA when in opposition - only for the Tories to say they had no intention of cutting it. Is it possible it was mooted by Treasury officials then and then put aside?

Nothing really to see here even if it is all how it happened but I do find the machinations of government fascinating and that’s why I posted it.
 






Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,368
Withdean area
It may well be - well the civil service side of it might, the Blackrock holdings are public knowledge.

When I first heard about the wish list though I did think back to when all the Labour leaders came out against WFA when in opposition - only for the Tories to say they had no intention of cutting it. Is it possible it was mooted by Treasury officials then and then put aside?

Nothing really to see here even if it is all how it happened but I do find the machinations of government fascinating and that’s why I posted it.

From what I can see the Blackrock-Starmer ‘corruption’ thing is silly. Made up by a nerd in a Moscow disinformation office.

Respectfully, imho don’t be drawn in. Fight winnable arguments.
 






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