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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

Is Labour going to turn the country around

  • Yes

    Votes: 130 25.9%
  • No

    Votes: 306 61.0%
  • Fence

    Votes: 66 13.1%

  • Total voters
    502






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Staged and the police are in on it?

GMP has one of the highest crime rates in Britain. A spokesman said: “We spoke to the woman for six minutes to advise she was the subject of a complaint of harassment and to answer any questions she may have. No further action is necessary as no crime has been committed.


We are under a duty to inform her that she is the subject of a complaint. The genuine threats that have been made to local councillors recently have meant it has been more necessary to ensure all reports are looked at. On this day officers were making 203 arrests for crimes like assault, burglary and rape. Tackling these priorities are why the complaint was dealt with two days after it was reported.”




From the times
She just happened to have photographers standing by when the police called?
She had complained about Labour councillors (quite rightly) on the dodgy WhatsApp group, on FB, when persons unknown made a complaint of harassment against her.

Now right wing media are shouting foul, thought police etc etc.

All very convenient.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,906
hassocks
She just happened to have photographers standing by when the police called?
She had complained about Labour councillors (quite rightly) on the dodgy WhatsApp group, on FB, when persons unknown made a complaint of harassment against her.

Now right wing media are shouting foul, thought police etc etc.

All very convenient.
Ring door bell wasn't it?

Why wouldn't the police come out and say it didn't happen?
 


abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,508
I'd like to qualify your claim about being 'for growth' is sensible. Arguably the worst aspect about GDP is it's an indiscriminate measure, and I really don't think we should be aiming for indiscriminate growth.
This is due to the climate crisis, the Sixth Mass Extinction and other environmental factors. What we should be looking at is growing certain parts of the economy (including the wealth of the poorer members) and shrinking others (carbon, material throughput, oligarchic wealth, etc).

Fair points and achieving ‘discriminate’ growth would be something of a holy grail. So, you are chancellor: what policies would you announce?
 


jcdenton08

Joel Veltman Fan Club
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
16,123
She just happened to have photographers standing by when the police called?
She had complained about Labour councillors (quite rightly) on the dodgy WhatsApp group, on FB, when persons unknown made a complaint of harassment against her.

Now right wing media are shouting foul, thought police etc etc.

All very convenient.
The images were taken as stills from a video doorbell
 




abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,508
Starmer and Reeves have received criticism for "talking down" the economy and damaging confidence, yet when they announce ambitious plans on housebuilding and the third Heathrow runway they are told they are "unrealistic".

They need to be cut slack on the "talking down" point. Over-promising and under-delivering was a notable feature of the previous 9 years of Tory government, so I understand their desire to keep it real. I would also say that even if she were to strike an optimistic tone there are others talking the economy down, i.e. every major news channel.

That said, Labour do have a problem with their messaging on the big picture. We get that growth is their No. 1 priority, but how does this dovetail with environmental issues like the third runway or North Sea Oil, road and rail connections? Or on protected government spending commitments like defence, NHS and education?

What we have is a political chili con carne without the chili.

I think they should have been far more aggressive on wealth inequality and capital taxes. They visibly went after the farmers, pensioners and employers whilst leaving capital taxes still relatively low. 24% as a top rate for CGT is very generous, especially when you consider the freeze in the Higher Rate tax threshold means more people cross that threshold and are paying 42% tax on their earned income, 40% on any interest they earn above £500.

One of the reasons for stagflation is that too much wealth has passed to the super-rich who - invariably - place their capital offshore and avoid UK tax. Another reason is that many people were caught out with Covid and are rebuilding their reserves, whilst the essentials like energy, water, council tax, rent have increased by rates above inflation. People will continue to be careful with their spending.

Agree with most of this except that Heathrow and the house building targets are described as unrealistic because they are….. unrealistic
 


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