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[Albion] Potter- what’s he up to? (Managing West Ham from 9 Jan)



Tom Hark Preston Park

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This idea - floated on here - that keeping Albion in the PL , developing a bunch of players that we then sold for hundreds of millions and giving us our first ever top 10 position in the PL is somehow not remarkable and a credit to the coach - who had never managed at that level before - is an interesting one. Even if you don't like the bloke. Especially given the number of young ish coaches -3 or 4 a season - who have failed to even approach a track record like that in the Prem.
The fact that Potter made very little progress with the wealth of player talent at his disposable for two full seasons is a testament to TB's patience. Anywhere else he'd have been out on his ear long before he got the chance to jump ship. He's bang average
 




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The fact that Potter made very little progress with the wealth of player talent at his disposable for two full seasons is a testament to TB's patience. Anywhere else he'd have been out on his ear long before he got the chance to jump ship. He's bang average
As bang average as Lampard?
 


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Did ANYBODY at the time? I know I didn’t on the little I saw of him. He had to drop to the Championship before he hit some form

There are plenty of sticks available to beat Potter with, this is not one of them imo

Indeed.

Dominic Solanke cost plucky about £20m and I seem to remember plenty on here moaning that we hadn't signed him.

then he scored 3 goals in 2 seasons and I seem to remember plenty on here laughing at how shit he was.

it's almost as if teenage forwards are subject to change over 5 years of so.
 


GT49er

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I said started more games under Potter. Only two of those games under Hughton were starts compared to all 3 games being starts under Potter. Hughton did name him in 3 PL squads but he never got off the bench.
OK, I'll give you that one!
Gyokeres could play for 3 clubs as during the Covid pandemic FIFA temporarily increased the number of teams a player could play for in a season to 3 rather than just the normal 2.
:thumbsup:
 






Justice

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And he looked useless?

I hope your are not trying to rewrite history again and suggest CH was a fan of giving youth a chance?

I suppose it makes a change for you to go back to slagging off Potter again, gives us some respite from you slagging Fab off :smile:

I am surprised you haven’t switched your allegiance to Olympique de Marseille in truth.
Eh? What are on about, I know for a fact Hughton was going to bring VG into the first team the following season and not AC.
I’m not sure you can deal with different points of view if they don’t aline with yours.
I don’t think there would be a football fans message board in the world where every fan agrees on everything football related regarding their club.
 


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Eh? What are on about, I know for a fact Hughton was going to bring VG into the first team the following season and not AC.
I’m not sure you can deal with different points of view if they don’t aline with yours.
I don’t think there would be a football fans message board in the world where every fan agrees on everything football related regarding their club.
I can easily deal with different points of view, I just struggle with posts that are nearly always negative

How do you know for a fact that CH was going to integrate VG the following season? No new strikers incoming in the summer window for a team that could very easily have got relegated in his last season? We certainly wouldn’t have got Trossard if CH had remained in charge, he said as much.
 






chaileyjem

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Most of them haven’t been given time though in fairness. TB :bowdown:

If WHU give him time and the players I can see them competing at the same level as us within a season
True and we're lucky to have sensible owners but most coaches fail and he didn't And it also strengthens that idea that none of the positive things that happened were actually, perhaps,, down to the coach.
As for blaming him for random nonsense like not spotting Gyokeres scoring a hatful in the Champions League 5 years later - its laughable. (i thought Albion had a Director of Football and a battalion of data analysts whose job it was to spot that sort of thing)
Fine. His leaving left a nasty taste in the mouth, RDZ took it to a different level, (altho we'll never know what that season could have looked like led by Potter) , and he said some silly stuff. Don't shoot. "Remember you're Brighton" . But so what. THATS PROBABLY STARTED IT . Ha ha .
 


chaileyjem

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Eh? What are on about, I know for a fact Hughton was going to bring VG into the first team the following season and not AC.
Perhaps he would have got more out of him than the 7 (seven) goals he racked up in Bundesliga 2 that season. Not sure what the point is here especially if its to somehow argue that Potter wasn't successful at the Albion. He was. Thats just obvious.
And I very much doubt Potter had much to do with decisions to loan Gyokeres . or perhaps it justs impossible to see then what we know now. especially with those two players. it happens.
 








chaileyjem

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The fact that Potter made very little progress with the wealth of player talent at his disposable for two full seasons is a testament to TB's patience. Anywhere else he'd have been out on his ear long before he got the chance to jump ship. He's bang average
Was any of the "wealth of player talent" available to the manager - anything to do with the head coach of the Albion at the time. Their success at developing players must have been quite good don't you think ? Wonder who that was ?
 






Flounce

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Says the Potter fan boy🙄
I was a Potter fan boy, an RDZ fanboy until he went rogue, and I am on the fence with Fab but happy to give him time. You seem to be an RDZ fan boy and a Potter and Fab hater :shrug:

It’s pathetic how you are unable to give Potter any credit at all whilst not realising that RDZ benefitted big time from GP’s tenure. You have already written Fab off too which is very knee jerk.
 
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Pliny the Gull

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Nothing bad to say about GP.
However IMO if he was still with us, I think we would be exactly where we are now. ( Without the euro ride).
He's a theorist, reflector in his style. Hence he needs time. I also think he is all about team.
RDZ more the pragmatist, who got a tune out of the individuals quickly. Silly springs to mind.
 








jackalbion

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Just watched his pre match interview on ITV, I just can’t listen to him, far too sincere to be a football manager. Nice guy but yeah he’s not for me.
 


jackalbion

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I am not defending GP or knocking Fab (much) but you appear to have a hate for GP and serious reservations about Fab. Are you another RDZ fanboy in distress? :wink:
Hate to wade into this debate again, everyone is an RDZ fanboy because by far and away he’s the greatest manager we’ve ever had, and achieved something that wasn’t ever logically possible. Watching us in the best league in the world in 2022/23 was the best season of my life.
 


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