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[Politics] God(s)

Do you believe in any type of God?

  • Yes

    Votes: 34 17.9%

  • No

    Votes: 146 76.8%

  • Yes - but not as others have written it in formal religoustexts

    Votes: 10 5.3%
  • Total voters
    190


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mothy

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2012
2,378
Do you believe?

In any of them or your own?

Perhaps you are one?

I'm the 1st one up in my house & watching tv with the dog. It's Sunday & there's loads of god related content about. So I'm thinking - who is this for?

I might have some faith - I always say I don't- but I don't have any faith in the way it is written about or taught as religions to the world (they give me less faith / put me off the whole idea)
 




happypig

happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,254
Eastbourne
It's all nonsense isn't it ?

Think of it like this, if you burned all the science books and all the religious books and started again, after a while there would be science books again with all the same information.
Religious books would re-appear but would be full of a whole load of different nonsense.
 


Madafwo

Madafwo

I'm probably being facetious.
Nov 11, 2013
1,788
The way I see it is if I told you I was hearing voices and they told me to do stuff, you'd think I was a bit of a nutter, wouldn't you?

But if I tell you it was God talking to me via a burning bush that's absolutely fine and dandy.

No issue with people following a religion and it causing no harm, if you feel like you need that validation or support then knock yourself out, unfortunately, for as long as there has been organised religion, people have fought and died because of it.
 


GingerBeerMan

GingerBeerMan

3-0
Dec 29, 2011
8,218
Madafwo said:
The way I see it is if I told you I was hearing voices and they told me to do stuff, you'd think I was a bit of a nutter, wouldn't you?

But if I tell you it was God talking to me via a burning bush that's absolutely fine and dandy.

No issue with people following a religion and it causing no harm, if you feel like you need that validation or support then knock yourself out, unfortunately, for as long as there has been organised religion, people have fought and died because of it.
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I'd wager that if there was no thought of an afterlife we'd still find things to war about, but there wouldn't be people keeping them in check via fear. So perhaps on aggregate religion causes more peace than violence.
 


Lyndhurst 14

Lyndhurst 14

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2008
5,260
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!

You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci. Two reasons; first of all, I think he's a good actor. Okay. To me, that counts. Second; he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't f*** around. Doesn't f*** around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with. For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog. Joe Pesci straightened that c***-sucker out with one visit. I noticed that of all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers that I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answer at about the same 50 percent rate. Half the time I get what I want. Half the time I don't. Same as god 50/50. Same as the four leaf clover, the horse shoe, the rabbit's foot, and the wishing well. Same as the mojo man. Same as the voodoo lady who tells your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles. It's all the same; 50/50. So just pick your superstitions, sit back, make a wish and enjoy yourself.

- George Carlin
 
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Hiheidi

Well-known member
Dec 27, 2022
1,980
I remember when my son was 8, he asked me if I believed in God. I tried to answer very carefully (he was at a CoE school) saying people believe different things, to which he said that he'd worked out there wasn't one. At this point, he still believed in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy 😂
 




Madafwo

Madafwo

I'm probably being facetious.
Nov 11, 2013
1,788
GingerBeerMan said:
I'd wager that if there was no thought of an afterlife we'd still find things to war about, but there wouldn't be people keeping them in check via fear. So perhaps on aggregate religion causes more peace than violence.
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I have no doubt that there would still be war, but the fear of judgement due to an afterlife hasn't stopped the millions upon millions of deaths related to all the wars there have been so far, but there have most definitely been wars/crusades/terrorist attacks based solely on people's warped view of their religion.

I don't need the fear of being judged in the "afterlife" to not be a dick, no one does.

I have the potential to be very offensive to a lot of people with my views on religion so I'm going to try very hard to keep it in check.
 
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Flounce

Flounce

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2006
4,867
More people have been killed in the name of God over history than anyone else no?

Probably best to side step the believing
 


SeagullinExile

SeagullinExile

Well-known member
Sep 10, 2010
6,225
London
The Sumarian’s told the same ‘stories’ thousands of years before Christianity rocked up, just with different names.

On that basis I believe it’s all a crock of shit. Buddhism is the way to go, they don’t believe in a single deity, and their stories are epic!
 






brighton_tom

brighton_tom

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2008
5,722
Madafwo said:
No issue with people following a religion and it causing no harm, if you feel like you need that validation or support then knock yourself out, unfortunately, for as long as there has been organised religion, people have fought and died because of it.
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This is it for me.
 








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pigbite

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2007
571
Eric the meek said:
I don't believe in it, but having mixed with old people cramming for their finals, I wouldn't dream of trying to disabuse them of their beliefs.

Religion can give a lot of comfort.
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Agreed that it would be more than a bit churlish to have a pop at someone's faith late in life and it's true that there is comfort in religious belief but is it not healthier to find ways of understanding life, death and purpose without resorting to whatever religious story you wish to hang onto? It's also true that religious stories have caused people to live their lives in fear of a burning torment or perpetrate any number of horrific acts in the name of faith.

Beliefs inform actions. Actions have consequences. Surely our beliefs should be based on as many true things as possible?
 


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Hometownglory

Well-known member
Jan 12, 2014
762
happypig said:
It's all nonsense isn't it ?

Think of it like this, if you burned all the science books and all the religious books and started again, after a while there would be science books again with all the same information.
Religious books would re-appear but would be full of a whole load of different nonsense.
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Didn't Ricky Gervais say something similar? There is no test to prove if there is a God but there is for Science, Science and Religion are not compatible.
 




OzMike

OzMike

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2006
13,350
Perth Australia
I don't believe or disbelieve, I just don't think about it and just live my life trying to do the best I can and always willing to help if I can.
We could just be an accident with chemicals for all we know.
Strange just how many highly educated and learned people believe that there must be something more, organising all this, as all the complexities they have encountered just couldn't be an accident, In their opinion.
Oh well, back to work tomorrow.
 






Eric the meek

Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
NSC Patron
Aug 24, 2020
7,545
pigbite said:
Agreed that it would be more than a bit churlish to have a pop at someone's faith late in life and it's true that there is comfort in religious belief but is it not healthier to find ways of understanding life, death and purpose without resorting to whatever religious story you wish to hang onto? It's also true that religious stories have caused people to live their lives in fear of a burning torment or perpetrate any number of horrific acts in the name of faith.

Beliefs inform actions. Actions have consequences. Surely our beliefs should be based on as many true things as possible?
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Well, yes our beliefs should indeed be based on true things. Or rather, I used to think that. Today, I can't be bothered to spend time arguing with people who have entrenched beliefs. For starters, it wouldn't sit right with me, as nobody can prove that God doesn't exist. Religion is only, ever, a belief, in the same way as I don't believe God exists. That is also a belief.

Who am I to say that all religious people are wrong? Because I can't prove it either way, there is a possibility that I may be wrong.
 


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