Not caring about sustainability the last time we were in the top flight is what resulted in our decline to near extinction between 1983 and 1997. Lots of clubs are screwed if they get relegated from the PL becuase they go all in on players' wages and fees.
Yeah I’ve worded this wrong, I mean is the sustainability a focus on profit, or is it titles and trophies.
Surely the sustainability is for the longevity of the club. It may or may not bring trophies, but it certainly has taken us further than we've ever been before.
That's nuanced. I can't argue with nuance.Right what I got out of this, and there was a lot of it, is I slightly agree with his point that you are telling people to go watch Lewes, is a bit self righteous. That’s my opinion, but I think there is a debate to be had about these season ticket no shows, and forcibly listing tickets.
I don’t think the club have been entirely fair recently and over the last few seasons with some of their treatment of fans, does that make me miss when there were 400 of us and it was league, yes maybe a little bit. On the whole I think the club get it right, but I do feel on here SOMETIMES, people go a bit overboard with agreeing with the club, and everything they do. For example suggesting people should be banned for standing in the aisle, people misbehave a little bit at football sometimes, it’s not the end of the world.
I worry a bit the media repeatedly saying what a well run club we are, Paul Barber on every podcast (talking very well may I add) constantly, does get in people’s head, and make us maybe become complacent. I think the whole debate around should we/shouldn’t we get involved with the FSA campaign is an example of this. I think it’s healthy to debate and a lot of these threads get shot down as people being hysterical, as you’ve mentioned, when I think sometimes they’ve got a good point! Some supporters want something different from what they are getting with the club, and there is no reason why they shouldn’t be listened to, as much as families and tourist that the club seem to be increasingly trying to attract (not an issue with it, but they are trying to attract them more).
Yes I agree, it’s more about the keeping of players is what I’m getting at. Do we want to sell a MacAllister or Caicedo and make crazy profit, or do we want to keep them and push on even further, because undoubtedly in the last two seasons our slight dip from Europa League candidates is a result of us selling players on. How do we recapture and keep that success consistent (which admittedly no club of our size has ever achieved before) is the measure of TB’s recent success for me, of course I’m not expecting that to be this season for example.
I don't think we had much choice on either in the end. Mac had the release clause, without which we probably wouldn't have got him to sign an extension before the World Cup, and it sounds like Caicedo was determined he wasn't playing for us in 23-24.
Well indeed, but there are solutions to those problems, which will occur in the future. I’d like to see us tackle them differently now.
Paul Barber OBE's book would probably read similar given his love of appearing in the media talking about how amazing we are and his allergic reaction to any kind of criticism
No, there isn’t one period
That’s not really a face palm moment is it? Telling someone if they don’t want to watch PL or European football or get excited about our shiny expensive new toys in action then a ST isn’t for them?
Next you will be suggesting the club follow Utd's ST T&C's, with compulsory purchase of home cup games, and other requirements where you can virtually lose your ST for the non attendance of very few games.
I don’t agree. What about those of us who live a long way from the Amex, or who bring school age children? The large number of week-day evening or late weekend kick-offs etc mean it’s simply not practical for everyone to attend as many home games as that. I have a 7-8 hour round trip, fine for a Saturday 3pm game but there are many I just can’t do.
Have you heard about the possibility of putting up your ticket to be made available to others?
Sorry, should have said that when I can’t go I do use the exchange. My post was more in response to the suggestion that putting your ticket on the exchange shouldn’t count as the ticket being used.Have you heard about the possibility of putting up your ticket to be made available to others?
You get most of the money back.
That way you get most of the money back and don't trigger the club to contact you.
There may be posts elsewhere that explain how to do this.
Failing hat, look on the club site