He had to find some way of keeping her quiet. A peerage for a job hardly started, let alone finished.
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Maybe we should all get one?
He’s become a real expert at that… You only needed see the look on Lisa Nando’s face the other day on the front benches when he was spewing out his response to his colleague along the bench, she was literally dying inside
And where in the Labour manifesto was a promise to compensate Waspie women? And can you tell me where he promised it in the election debates?
nevergoagain
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That wasn't the point made as you well know.
dsr-burnley
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I doubt Labour will try and make any sort of campaign on the basis that everything they say (apart from during an election campaign) means nothing at all. People might not trust them if they try that.
OK, so let's take another thing. Brexit.
In 2016 Starmer was a Remainer. In government he has chosen not to rejoin the EU. He also didn't put 'rejoining the EU' in the Labour manifesto.
Is this other example of pragmatic reconsideration once in charge (and, indeed, preparing a manifesto to be in charge) one you approve of? Or do you think we should rejoin?
But isn't it the constant backsliding we are now seeing from Starmer's Labour Party precisely why so many say "politicians? They're all the same"?
I wouldn't vote for Starmer's Labour Party because I didn't ever trust him. But deep down I had hoped I was wrong. From what I've seen so far, I don't think I was. Look at the new employment laws, the majority of which I fully support. Instead of introducing them immediately, they have been kicked into the long grass for a lengthy "consultation period" and won't come into effect until 2026 at the earliest.
FFS This government was elected to take decisions and make changes. Not to sit around for two years asking "what do you think?"
I wouldn't vote for Starmer's Labour Party because I didn't ever trust him. But deep down I had hoped I was wrong. From what I've seen so far, I don't think I was. Look at the new employment laws, the majority of which I fully support. Instead of introducing them immediately, they have been kicked into the long grass for a lengthy "consultation period" and won't come into effect until 2026 at the earliest.
FFS This government was elected to take decisions and make changes. Not to sit around for two years asking "what do you think?"
darkwolf666
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Yet when they make quick decisions, people (the media in particular) don't like it... Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
nevergoagain
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What I think matters not, I had a view and maintain it. Is politics is just posturing to be able to oppose everything the existing government do but then take a completely different view when they take power ?.
So you any policy you suggest or oppose in 14 years of opposition should be automatically implemented or reversed in government, regardless of changing circumstances?
nevergoagain
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He signed a pledge promising to work towards compensation in 2022 and his work and pensions minister had a photo call with the campaign group, that's much more recent history than 14 years.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
nevergoagain
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You're reaching now. Bare facts are that he and his party have turned about face on this (and other stuff) on an issue which they made political capital out of. Had the tories done the same can you imagine the reaction from some on here ?
clapham_gull
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The reality is that no party now in power would be paying out.
Political opportunism in opposition is really really annoying, but not as as annoying as the Conservatives and Remain and their merry band of supporters moaning about what they would have done (or not done) anyway.
Yeah but no but yeah but.
clapham_gull
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The Tories did more than enough to get booted out. Buckle up, there are out for a decade whilst they decide what they are.
It’s not a reach to say the cost of living and national debt were far different then to now. There are far better things to spend half a black hole on.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Plenty of time to continue to treat pensioners with utter disdain and keep the lies-a-coming.
Ah - but they were the decisions they didn't agree with. If they had agreed with them, they wouldn't moan.
clapham_gull
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Clearly haven't had a good start, but I think they are working on the basis of getting their controversial stuff out the way early.
It's all a game of strategy to me, politics.
But since the last lot treated everyone with utter disdain they won't find a way back soon.
I do "laugh" remembering what Thatcher did when she got in. Anyone in their 50s moaning about this lot have very very short memories or they were oblivious to what was happening outside the South East.