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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
7,642
Wiltshire
I'm not going to get into his alleged domestic human rights abuses or crackdowns, but geopolitically, especially with Ukraine/Russia, I kinda like Erdoğan as far as despots go!

as he more often than not, aligns with Ukraine and against Russia and its proxies.
The same for me 👍.
I see his priorities as:
1. Himself
2. Turkey
3. Ukraine/ Western, NATO allies
4. Russia ( as far as it has a hidden win for Turkey.)

Well, something like that...IRDKMAA...IMEG 😉
 
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raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
7,642
Wiltshire
As things begin to hot up on a number of fronts, not just on the battlefield, here are a few useful mnemonics for the regulars to save on keystrokes.
(and they may bamboozle any lurkers and interlopers who may look in from time to time):

IDKWIRI - I don't know where I read it
IDKWITA - I don't know what I'm talking about
IANAE - I am not an expert
You've been remembering those Russian 'visitors' in that pub you frequented after work,😁
 












Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
3,234
Absolutely chilling...


I make a point of trying to read Rosenberg’s daily summary of the Russian press. It’s very educational. Today for example I learned from Lavrov that the war started when Russia was attacked by the USA using the “hand of Ukraine”. Assuming he didn’t present his views as the joke of the day, Lavrov must be hoping that Russians have a short memory and have forgotten that Russia didn’t, as previously announced, kick it all off with a special military operation. The state PR seems to be getting a bit disjointed, inconsistent and confused and we should expect the head of comms to soon be given flying lessons from an 8th floor window. Of course that’s my “western” view and sadly I’m sure many Lavrov’s target audience will believe him.
 








fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
1,789
in a house
A Ukrainian man loses his wife and three daughters to a Russian missile. What does the Russian diplomat do? He smiles on hearing about it.

He is now probably on a list somewhere in Ukraine.


Scum, hope he is short lived. If I were vengeful I'd want him to loose his whole family first but that wouldn't be fair on them.
 




danielson81

Active member
Nov 16, 2010
109
Brighton, UK
Romania annuls first round of Presidential vote due to alleged interfering.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4x2epppego

Romania's constitutional court has annulled the result of the first round of voting in the presidential election just days before the second round was due to take place.

It means the process will be restarted from scratch, with the government due to decide a date for a new vote.

The first round was won by Calin Georgescu, an almost unknown far-right Nato-sceptic who has previously praised Vladimir Putin.

The court's decision comes after intelligence documents were declassified, suggesting Georgescu benefitted from a mass influence operation – conducted from abroad – to interfere with the result of the vote.
 


raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,642
Wiltshire
I make a point of trying to read Rosenberg’s daily summary of the Russian press. It’s very educational. Today for example I learned from Lavrov that the war started when Russia was attacked by the USA using the “hand of Ukraine”. Assuming he didn’t present his views as the joke of the day, Lavrov must be hoping that Russians have a short memory and have forgotten that Russia didn’t, as previously announced, kick it all off with a special military operation. The state PR seems to be getting a bit disjointed, inconsistent and confused and we should expect the head of comms to soon be given flying lessons from an 8th floor window. Of course that’s my “western” view and sadly I’m sure many Lavrov’s target audience will believe him.
Indeed. Our western view is that consistency and some logic matters in comms...it clearly doesn't to Russia!
Journos should just call it out to Lavrov's face 🤷🏼‍♂️
 


raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
7,642
Wiltshire
Romania annuls first round of Presidential vote due to alleged interfering.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4x2epppego

Romania's constitutional court has annulled the result of the first round of voting in the presidential election just days before the second round was due to take place.

It means the process will be restarted from scratch, with the government due to decide a date for a new vote.

The first round was won by Calin Georgescu, an almost unknown far-right Nato-sceptic who has previously praised Vladimir Putin.

The court's decision comes after intelligence documents were declassified, suggesting Georgescu benefitted from a mass influence operation – conducted from abroad – to interfere with the result of the vote.
Well done Romania
 




GrizzlingGammon

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Dec 15, 2018
2,019
According to a BBC report yesterday, quoting Defence Intelligence, Russia lost an average of 1523 men per day in November. That's just over one man every 60 seconds.
 










Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
7,442
Ukraine took out radar and anti-aircraft defence systems in Crimea a week or two ago. At the time, I thought they might be planning something.
Now they've used naval drones to attack gas rigs off Crimea, used by Russia for surveillance systems.
They may well be planning something, but there is another takeaway from this. Their actions suggest that they don't accept Crimea remaining in Russian hands for much longer.

I wonder if they've had a sniff of the contents of the peace deal?

 




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