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[Albion] Fabian Hürzeler **SINGED 15/06/2024**

Would Fabian Hurzeler be a good replacement for RDZ?

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Insel affe

Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
jcdenton08 said:
Yet that’s exactly what he did against Southampton and again tonight. I think he’ll revert to the back four. In my opinion he picked a back three tonight to accommodate Dunk, with both Igor and Van Hecke playing too well to drop. I think it was a mistake.
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Agreed, Dunk is not a shoe in anymore and if we are to “trust the process guys” the process should be for the good of the team not the player even if he is the captain or legend, sadly.
The substitutes we’re way to late as well, he’s young and will learn hopefully and get back on track Sunday, otherwise Palace will smell blood, and the Amex crowd will be so nervous….


we have seen this movie before eh.
 






Nobby Cybergoat

Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Simster said:
Lamptey could have started at RB and then they could have reverted to a back 3 if he couldn't sustain 90 mins.
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I just think his minutes are being managed even more heavily than that. I don't think they wanted to give him more than half an hour tonight
 




Zeberdi

Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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jcdenton08 said:
Yet that’s exactly what he did against Southampton and again tonight. I think he’ll revert to the back four. In my opinion he picked a back three tonight to accommodate Dunk, with both Igor and Van Hecke playing too well to drop. I think it was a mistake.
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You may be right but I’m also thinking if either Webster, Hinsh and/or Veltman had been fit, FH would have stuck with 4.

There were fine margins and we created chances but our few errors at the back buried us.

IMO we need some changes in January - (I’d be tempted to get Barco back amongst other things) — I think we need an injection of new energy at the back.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

Nobby Cybergoat

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macbeth said:
really not ideal when your cover for a particular position is so fragile that they cannot be given more than 30 mins.
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No it isn't. Remember, as well as Veltman, we'd also normally expect to have Ferdi and Hinsh we could put there. Milner and Solly in case of a real injury crisis.

Our top 6 RB's all crocked or having minutes managed.

I don't believe FH would have considered 3 at the back, had just one of those been properly fit
 


Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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Zeberdi said:
Not the best performance from our absentee manager tonight. Surely S’ton was a heads up that Van Hecke is not the best 3rd person in a 3 man defence set up?

Players have off days - when they do, time to get them off and switch it up.

FH does not like changing the system halfway through a season and not in the middle of the game either but is that going to be a downfall or strength in the long run?

Playing from the back against a team that was aggressively pressing high, with only 3 at the back, especially when one of the 3 was struggling anyway was a doubtful game plan for me and left no room for errors.

Some cracks appearing for me in FH’s management style but still in 5th place which is impressive at this point in the season.
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Is it possible that, like our young kids, our 31 year old manager in his first season managing a top flight team has quite a lot to learn and a lot of mistakes to make along the way?

Just a thought.....
 


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Jan 10, 2022
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jcdenton08 said:
Yet that’s exactly what he did against Southampton and again tonight. I think he’ll revert to the back four. In my opinion he picked a back three tonight to accommodate Dunk, with both Igor and Van Hecke playing too well to drop. I think it was a mistake.
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Exactly how I saw it and we looked horrible defensively. FH trying to be too clever but lots of players looking well off it. Adingra and O’Riley the worst candidates.
 






Zeberdi

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Kalimantan Gull said:
Is it possible that, like our young kids, our 31 year old manager in his first season managing a top flight team has quite a lot to learn and a lot of mistakes to make along the way?

Just a thought.....
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Wow

Rather a patronising tone, no?

Made it look like I was unfairly attacking Hürzeler.

I am not attacking FH - of course he’s learning - I’m his greatest advocate fhs and my original assessment of him last season as being a potentially great manager for us and improving on De Zerbi remains solid so I don’t need reminding thanks that we need to give the guy time to grow and adapt.

Yes, there is some trial and error but it is not because of his age - coming from Bundesliga 2 straight into top flight EPL was always going to be a learning curve for any manager whether he is 30 or 50 years old..

FH has already exceeded my expectations with Brighton but that does not mean I will refrain from pointing out where I feel there are areas of weaknesses and where we need improving the same as any interested Brighton fan would.
 
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Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

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Zeberdi said:
Rather a patronising tone? I am not attacking FH - I’m his greatest advocate fhs and my original assessment of him last season as being a potentially great manager for us and improving on De Zerbi remains solid.

Yes, there is some trial and error but it is not because of his age - coming from Bundesliga 2 straight into top flight EPL was always going to be a learning curve for any manager whether he is 30 or 50 years old..

FH has already exceeded my expectations with Brighton but that does not mean I will refrain from pointing out where I feel there are areas of weaknesses and where we need improving the same as any interested Brighton fan would.
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I was surprised to see that comment from you because I know you are his number one fan and yet your comment was strikingly similar to so many others that just forget how inexperienced he is. A 20 year old player will be given a couple of years, but a manager is expected to make the right decisions from the off.

The correct response to his mistakes is to shrug shoulders and revisit in 2 or 3 years, but football moves fast and message boards demand oxygen.
 


Justice

Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Zeberdi said:
Rather a patronising tone? I am not attacking FH - I’m his greatest advocate fhs and my original assessment of him last season as being a potentially great manager for us and improving on De Zerbi remains solid.

Yes, there is some trial and error but it is not because of his age - coming from Bundesliga 2 straight into top flight EPL was always going to be a learning curve for any manager whether he is 30 or 50 years old..

FH has already exceeded my expectations with Brighton but that does not mean I will refrain from pointing out where I feel there are areas of weaknesses and where we need improving the same as any interested Brighton fan would.
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We still have no identity after 14 games, we have a quality squad which is miss managed.
He has no idea of his best 11, seems to have no idea how good Enciso or Fergie are.
 




jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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Justice said:
We still have no identity after 14 games, we have a quality squad which is miss managed.
He has no idea of his best 11, seems to have no idea how good Enciso or Fergie are.
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Or maybe he has a much better idea than we do of their abilities and what they can presently offer the team, given he works with them daily in training, on match days and in meetings.
 


Zeberdi

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Kalimantan Gull said:
I was surprised to see that comment from you because I know you are his number one fan and yet your comment was strikingly similar to so many others that just forget how inexperienced he is. A 20 year old player will be given a couple of years, but a manager is expected to make the right decisions from the off.

The correct response to his mistakes is to shrug shoulders and revisit in 2 or 3 years, but football moves fast and message boards demand oxygen.
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Don’t be so daft and you are still being very patronising 😉- FYI I am allowed to give a critique when things don’t go well. If I didn’t think he was making the cut or not doing well as a manager I would have said so 🤷🏻‍♂️

Just because I picked the guy out as being better than any options that were being publicly touted last May and had a gush over his record in the Bundesliga with St Pauli, it doesn’t mean I am going to be a starry eyed, Hürzeler groupie.

I’m surprised you find it so upsetting that anyone could be less than full of blind adoration or one should refrain from commenting in any weaknesses in our tactics and game plans at times.

I haven’t attacked the bloke, just said playing 3 at the back with Van Hecke isn‘t working and was a mistake.

Nothing Hürzeler hasn’t said himself after the performance tonight.
 


Justice

Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
jcdenton08 said:
Or maybe he has a much better idea than we do of their abilities and what they can presently offer the team, given he works with them daily in training, on match days and in meetings.
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Hmm there is a reason why literally every club in the PL want Ferguson he is a serious talent. FH gives him five minutes here and there and wonders why we don’t win.
Welbeck has had a great start to the season although he’s not the future.
 


Commander

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Apr 28, 2004
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Kalimantan Gull said:
Is it possible that, like our young kids, our 31 year old manager in his first season managing a top flight team has quite a lot to learn and a lot of mistakes to make along the way?

Just a thought.....
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No. That’s not the way football fans work. Must have instant success NOW!
 




Commander

Commander

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Apr 28, 2004
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Justice said:
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He has no idea of his best 11.
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Jesus wept. Do people actually still trot out this absolute shit in 2024?

Have you actually watched any top level football in the last ten years?
 




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