Gabbafella
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- Aug 22, 2012
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I bet gay relationships have been around longer than the comic book that tells him it's wrong.
I wonder how many times this tool heads down the MosqueHe seems to have cherry picked what his religious beliefs forbid him to do. Supporting the sin of gambling okay, homosexuality not. Twat.
I wasn't sure, hence why I used the term, not mentioning a day. My question still stands, given that football is played EVERY day of the week.Isn't Friday the Islamic sabbath comparison ? I'm not up with these things.
The irony is that the 'sabbath' as I understand it, is actually Saturday and not Sunday. Not sure why it changed. Some kind expediency doubtless.
Great to see a sensible answer as the first one.Happy to wear shirts with gambling logos on though.
That said, people should have freedom of choice - don't want to end up like the Poppy Police.
It's all very well saying don't wear an armband, but what about those people who are discriminated against in the game, the gay footballers who don't feel they can be honest with who they are, or just don't get picked if it is known. Are we actually saying it's more of a burden asking a captain to wear a coloured armband than someone facing real discrimination for who they are?Great to see a sensible answer as the first one.
Obviously the rainbow flag is 100% more harmless than gambling/alcohol and all kinds of stuff players promote.
But asking players (or people in general) to wear politically charged symbols isn't fair to them. I certainly think they should be allowed to wear rainbow coloured armbands but asking them to do it is intrusive.
Not agreeing to wear it doesn't even mean he is against LGBT - it could be some relative who'd get really upset or bunch of people in his daily life. Can't just expect him to ruin his personal and/or religous relationships through a captains armband.
Improving conditions for LGBT in the western world primarly happened through information/culture/arts/politics. It has done a great job. The whole "I'm taking this rainbow flag and shoving it down your throat and either you like it or we'll send a million man pitchfork mob on your arse" method isn't as good.
All that really comes from it is that a few hundred thousand knobs who spend most days harassing trans people on X now steals the rainbow flag to smash muslims with it. More polarisation and misunderstandings between people. Great.
I hope I've stayed within the sphear of practical non-upsetting football philosophy rather than politics.
But just in case, I just want to point out that Neal Maupay is f***ing great. We all love him for the same reason we love to watch a deluded labrador chase a ball in the park: the unconditional love for the ball. Our unified love for Maupay is proof that football is at its best when its at its dumbest. It'd be nice if it can be kept that way as much as possible.
Probably more than he gets down the wingI wonder how many times this tool heads down the Mosque
Personally I think much higher of him, than all the hypocrites who went along with this for a quiet life. It is good to have a show of solidarity, but that is all it is.Happy to wear shirts with gambling logos on though.
That said, people should have freedom of choice - don't want to end up like the Poppy Police.
Or we could Build a Bonfire and burn the f***ing lot.Isn’t it time that religious texts such as the Bible, Koran etc were given a bit of an update to reflect actual real life now? Could make them a bit more inclusive. Can’t see there being any issues doing this.
Kind of suggest they were wrong in the first place though, doesn't it? Which I imagine is a bit awkward if you're Christian or Muslim.Isn’t it time that religious texts such as the Bible, Koran etc were given a bit of an update to reflect actual real life now? Could make them a bit more inclusive. Can’t see there being any issues doing this.
But we are intolerant of intolerance.I’m just pleased we live in a (largely) tolerant country where his right of choice is honoured.
What I mean is there are several countries where wearing a rainbow arm band will get you thrown in prison, no freedom of expression or choice there, and no, not in a Stewart Lee sense.But we are intolerant of intolerance.
It comes down to the club ultimately.It's all very well saying don't wear an armband, but what about those people who are discriminated against in the game, the gay footballers who don't feel they can be honest with who they are, or just don't get picked if it is known. Are we actually saying it's more of a burden asking a captain to wear a coloured armband than someone facing real discrimination for who they are?
He represents a football club that will have youth football down to 6 year olds, women's teams, academy plus outreach programmes etc. Is it really too much to ask a representative of the football club to wear a symbol of inclusion?
He can retain his views on homosexuality being a sin and all the rest of it, BUT that doesn't mean he can't support homosexuals being included in sport. Mohamad Salah has no issue with wearing rainbow laces BECAUSE it is a symbol of inclusion, not whether he believes it is a sin or not. There is no hypocrisy unless the person choses to make it so.
Possibly and also more of their time and somewhat outdated now.Kind of suggest they were wrong in the first place though, doesn't it? Which I imagine is a bit awkward if you're Christian or Muslim.
Most church of england christian types are constantly reinterpreting the bible to fit the latest scientific theory. I say if you are going to be christian then have the gumption to stop moving the goalposts and stick with the literal text, God made the earth and all the creatures, only then did he bother making the sun, world is 6,000 years old, the dead can be resurrected, fish can be multiplied, water can be walked upon, virgins can give birth, da da dumKind of suggest they were wrong in the first place though, doesn't it? Which I imagine is a bit awkward if you're Christian or Muslim.