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[Albion] VAR v Southampton



southstandandy

WEST STAND ANDY
Jul 9, 2003
6,062
I suspect though that if this had happened at the other end going against us, we'd never hear the end of it.

Personally for me, I thought we got lucky.
 






lizard

Well-hung member
Jul 14, 2005
3,386
I don't get how anyone's arguing it, other than it taking 5 minutes for the clowns to fail to overturn the on-field decision.
Who remembers back when we had one disallowed as Burn (I think) was ambling about near the corner flag?
 








Swimboy64

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Oct 19, 2022
510
First they checked the goalscorer’s position, he was just onside - very close. Then they checked Armstrong’s position - the guy on the near post - and he was a yard or two offside. They then had to decide whether his movement (a flick of his leg behind him) constituted an attempt to interfere with play while offside.

They concluded it did, and gave offside.
And that Denton is a spot on report on the whole thing. I watched on tv and couldn’t understand why they took as long as they did.I think we were very lucky as Armstrongs flick of his leg could have been seen as running actuon
 




Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
2,635
City get the goal at Wolves for the exact same offence and this league really isn’t corrupt.
This will happen from time to time as long as the ambition from the lawmakers is to make the offside (and hands) laws as intricate as possible.

When the laws of the game require a bunch of refs needs to spend five minutes scanning Adam Armstrongs soul after a possible desire to kick the ball with the back of his feet... no shit they get it wrong sometimes.
 








trueblue

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,971
Hove
A player offside in the box should be classified as interfering, simple.
Totally agree. Though in the current climate of pedantic idiocy, we'd then wait 5 minutes while they checked whether a player was outside the box or one of his toes had crept a centimetre on to the line.
 




tedebear

Legal Alien
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
17,128
In my computer
First they checked the goalscorer’s position, he was just onside - very close. Then they checked Armstrong’s position - the guy on the near post - and he was a yard or two offside. They then had to decide whether his movement (a flick of his leg behind him) constituted an attempt to interfere with play while offside.

They concluded it did, and gave offside.

Just don't know why it took so flipping long...
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,956
England
A player offside in the box should be classified as interfering, simple.
So a player gets to the byline, pulls it back for someone to shoot and score....and the goal is ruled offside because the player who pulled it back originally is now standing offside?

Ok
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,040
someone once said words to effect of if they aren't interferring with play, what the f*** are they doing on the pitch. it's such an idiotic concept to introduce to the already fine line rule of offside. then when a ball is played long and the left back otherside of the pitch is offside they'll call it, so it's not even applied consistently. how does it improve the game, what problem does it solve?
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,083
West, West, West Sussex
Armstrong was offside and tried to flick the ball. Under the rules, it seems like a simple decision to me so I don’t get the outrage?
This. I’ve seen both BBC and Sky on tv this morning referring to a “hugely controversial” var call. It clearly wasn’t. Armstrong was offside. Clear as day. And by taking a defender with him on his run obviously was affecting play. Ridiculous amount of time taken to get to the right decision and once again Sky et al trying to whip up controversy where there is none.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,336
Goldstone
Not sure about the highlighted bit. Different streams gave different reasons. One said it was because of the flick, another said he was simply interfering by distracting the keeper. Either way - he was miles offside and clearly interfering with play (in my opinion).

This. I don't see why it matters whether he tried to flick the ball or not, you can see Bart reacts to him being there and prepares for a shot from him, so he's clearly interfering with play.
 




Dick Swiveller

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Sep 9, 2011
9,550
Pretty much in line and I could see how clearly Armstrong was off. Looked like he tried to play it so looked clear. But I would genuinely have taken the original (first 20 seconds) decision to allow it if it mean an end to this farce. The flag going up so, so late and then the wait with nothing on the screen. I don't care if it gets most things right - get VAR in the bin.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,392
Cumbria
Pretty much in line and I could see how clearly Armstrong was off. Looked like he tried to play it so looked clear. But I would genuinely have taken the original (first 20 seconds) decision to allow it if it mean an end to this farce. The flag going up so, so late and then the wait with nothing on the screen. I don't care if it gets most things right - get VAR in the bin.
The 'original' decision was not to allow it - lino flagged it as offside, even if he did take his time.

The VAR delay wasn't about the Armstrong involvement. It took them about 4 minutes to work out that the scorer was onside with lines and so on. Then about 10 more seconds to rule that Armstrong was offside and interfering. If they had done it the other way round it would have been done and dusted in no time.
 


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