[Albion] Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall Singed for Chelsea 02/07/2024

bhafc99 · 2024-11-15T08:57:05+0000

WhingForPresident said:
Don't see why we would do this unless Gomez is going out on loan, which seems unlikely.

The idea of having someone that turned down the chance to be a key player for us to go and warm their bench doesn't sit well.

I’d say that KDH is now pretty good at ‘sitting well’, actually.

ConfusedGloryHunter · 2024-11-15T09:08:29+0000

Well we need to do something about our massive lack of midfielders.

deletebeepbeepbeep · 2024-11-15T09:39:10+0000

He will end up at Palace to complete his boo boy status.

JBizzle · 2024-11-15T09:50:42+0000

GT49er said:
Really? £1M would only account for £20K a week in lost wages - and wages offered elsewhere might be a lot more than £20K a week less than Chelsea wages.
Going down from, say, £250K a week to a beggarly £100K is a loss of £2.5M, every year; that's, for example, £7.5M over a three year contract - by comparison, £2M is pretty measly compensation (in the eyes of a PL footballer and his agent anyway!

I don't believe he's anywhere near that at Chelsea. They have started bringing players on lower wages but long contracts. Having a quick scan, he's on about £80k-£100k per week on a six-year deal, plus bonuses.

That's well within Villa's wage range, so he may even get a pay rise

ChickenDipper · 2024-11-15T10:21:16+0000

Bozza said:
Fabrizio Romano reporting we are one of a few clubs who may try to sign him on loan in January.

Here we go!

Where was this said? On his podcast thing or something? As can’t see it on twatter.

GT49er · 2024-11-15T11:37:39+0000

JBizzle said:
I don't believe he's anywhere near that at Chelsea. They have started bringing players on lower wages but long contracts. Having a quick scan, he's on about £80k-£100k per week on a six-year deal, plus bonuses.

Take your point - but see my post #1534 - the £250K was a typo - I'd meant it to be £150K. I thought I'd corrected it, but obviously I didn't for some reason.
If you do the maths, you'll see that if I had meant £250K my maths would have been way-out inaccurate; they're not!

JBizzle said:
That's well within Villa's wage range, so he may even get a pay rise

Of course, if your £80 to £100K is closer to reality than my £150K a week guess, yes, that would be in Villa's price range (or West Ham's, and probably a fair few other clubs).

Silverhatch · 2024-11-15T12:08:43+0000

GT49er said:
Really? £1M would only account for £20K a week in lost wages - and wages offered elsewhere might be a lot more than £20K a week less than Chelsea wages.
Going down from, say, £150K a week to a beggarly £100K is a loss of £2.5M, every year; that's, for example, £7.5M over a three year contract - by comparison, £2M is pretty measly compensation (in the eyes of a PL footballer and his agent anyway!

Chelsea attract players via contract length. KDH has a 5-year deal. There will be all sorts of performance bonuses but it’s hugely unlikely that he is getting six figures per week over 5-years. He’ll have a basic contract value of X that can be Y if he hits certain markers. That’s why agents (and players) like Chelsea - guaranteed income and security in an insecure industry. It’s also why Chelsea have a problem shifting players bought in during the Boehly era.

Hugo Rune · 2024-11-15T12:52:23+0000

WhingForPresident said:
Don't see why we would do this unless Gomez is going out on loan, which seems unlikely.

The idea of having someone that turned down the chance to be a key player for us to go and warm their bench doesn't sit well.

I don’t know how Moder, Milner and Wieffer get ahead of O’Riley, Baleba, Ayari and Hinshelwood for the two midfield players, if you add KDH and Gomez to that waiting list, we are going to have a lot of quality midfielders missing out on squad selection, let alone team selection.

Brian Munich · 2024-11-15T14:39:43+0000

JBizzle said:
I don't believe he's anywhere near that at Chelsea. They have started bringing players on lower wages but long contracts. Having a quick scan, he's on about £80k-£100k per week on a six-year deal, plus bonuses.

That's well within Villa's wage range, so he may even get a pay rise

I wouldn't believe too much of what's in the public domain about player wages. There's a reason that he didn't come to us in August, and it's likely to be due to a significantly higher salary. Although, I guess you shouldn't underestimate the attraction of a long contract. I imagine a guaranteed 5m a year for 6 years, regardless of how good you are or whether or not you get a career-ending injury, will help you sleep at night.

Lady Whistledown · 2024-11-15T14:43:21+0000

JBizzle said:
Having a quick scan, he's on about £80k-£100k per week on a six-year deal, plus bonuses.

So, about £80k - £100k per week then.

Greg Bobkin · 2024-11-15T14:46:02+0000

WhingForPresident said:
Don't see why we would do this unless Gomez is going out on loan, which seems unlikely.

The idea of having someone that turned down the chance to be a key player for us to go and warm their bench doesn't sit well.

I'm sure this has been covered before, but @Bozza indicated months ago that it RDZ (specifically something he did or didn't do) was the main reason the KDH move broke down (apologies if I've got that wrong, boss), not the player himself.

worthingweird · 2024-11-15T16:07:13+0000

Let him rot...

Silverhatch · 2024-11-15T16:19:40+0000

Lady Whistledown said:
So, about £80k - £100k per week then.

Nah, far too much for a five year contract for KDH. Caicedo will be on just over £100k a week with a 416 week contract and he was one of the most sought after midfielders on the planet.

peterward · 2024-11-15T16:49:31+0000

Hugo Rune said:
I don’t know how Moder, Milner and Wieffer get ahead of O’Riley, Baleba, Ayari and Hinshelwood for the two midfield players, if you add KDH and Gomez to that waiting list, we are going to have a lot of quality midfielders missing out on squad selection, let alone team selection.

Milner is near the end, Wieffer is either not ready or not good enough but either way, not really usable yet, Moder isnt good enough and we tried to bin him off to Leicester in the KDH deal.

So I wouldn't even consider those 3 as anything other than squad/backup who may leave or be moved out.

The elephant in the room is Facundo at Leicester, who is doing great, wouldnt mind us recalling our young Argie superstar and having him in the mix

ConfusedGloryHunter · 2024-11-15T17:01:07+0000

peterward said:
Milner is near the end, Wieffer is either not ready or not good enough but either way, not really usable yet, Moder isnt good enough and we tried to bin him off to Leicester in the KDH deal.

So I wouldn't even consider those 3 as anything other than squad/backup who may leave or be moved out.

The elephant in the room is Facundo at Leicester, who is doing great, wouldnt mind us recalling our young Argie superstar and having him in the mix

Oi! Daft ideas this week go on the £51m Evan thread.

Flounce · 2024-11-15T17:13:04+0000

If Matt O’Riley was the back up player if we didn’t get KDH, then I am bloody delighted. One comes across as a bit of a twat, the other a well rounded self aware guy who has hit the ground running after a nasty injury.

sussex_guy2k2 · 2024-11-15T18:26:18+0000

Silverhatch said:
Nah, far too much for a five year contract for KDH. Caicedo will be on just over £100k a week with a 416 week contract and he was one of the most sought after midfielders on the planet.

There’s no way Caicedo’s on only £100k a week as one of the league’s most expensive ever players. If he is then he needs to sack his agent.

Hiheidi · 2024-11-15T18:33:36+0000

sussex_guy2k2 said:
There’s no way Caicedo’s on only £100k a week as one of the league’s most expensive ever players. If he is then he needs to sack his agent.

Capology says Caicedo is on £150k a week, and they have a green tick by it which they claim means it's been verified.

Brian Munich · 2024-11-15T19:06:43+0000

Hiheidi said:
Capology says Caicedo is on £150k a week, and they have a green tick by it which they claim means it's been verified.

I still find 150K a week very hard to believe for a player that attracted the highest transfer fee paid in Premier League history and had another massive club trying to sign him in the same window.

Motogull · 2024-11-15T19:12:21+0000

deletebeepbeepbeep said:
He will end up at Palace to complete his boo boy status.

Come off it fella, no way are Chelsea gonna loan to a competitor for a Champions League spot.

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