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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 173 41.9%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.5%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    413
  • This poll will close: .






Withdean11

Withdean11

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Feb 18, 2007
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Brighton/Hyde
RandyWanger said:
Where did 20 million Democrats go from 2020 to 2024.
Joe got 81 million votes
Kamala got 60?

:shrug:
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There is an estimated 8m votes remaining to be counted just in California (57/40 D/R) so lets wait and see the final number.

But It's looking likely that Trump will have more votes than he did in 2020, whilst Harris will be way down on Biden's 2020 votes but still more than Clinton in 2016 & Obama in 2012.

Perhaps a better question would be where did Biden's additional votes come from?
 


South Stand Bonfire

South Stand Bonfire

Who lit that match then?
NSC Patron
Jan 24, 2009
2,536
Shoreham-a-la-mer
Herr Tubthumper said:
It goes beyond "differing poltical views." I feel he is a real threat. And this is not about Harris.

I personally think the world would be a far better place if Putin, Trump plus a few others, did not exist on it. I have a good grasp of US culture; if he was shot dead then I'd offer my thoughts and prays and move on. That is how it works over there.
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It wouldn't though would it. His supporters would make him a martyr .....and then no doubt partition the Pope for him to become a Saint,
 


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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,040
dwayne said:
I will bet you now that there will be a normal election in 4 years time. It's incredible how many people get caught up in the hype and nonsense that comes out of Donald Trump's mouth.
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EFA.
 


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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,040
RandyWanger said:
Where did 20 million Democrats go from 2020 to 2024.
Joe got 81 million votes
Kamala got 60?

:shrug:
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Died
Voted for Trump
Voted for Stein
Didn't vote

Etc etc.
 




A1X

A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,544
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Reading too much into vote counts seems pointless before counting is over, it’s not like the UK where all the votes are counted and THEN we find out who wins
 


Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,697
The Fatherland
South Stand Bonfire said:
It wouldn't though would it. His supporters would make him a martyr .....and then no doubt partition the Pope for him to become a Saint,
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That's fine, they can worship a martyr, I do not have an issue with this.
 


Pavilionaire

Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,265
pb21 said:
It is a bit stange.

2008: GOP 60.0m DEM 69.5m Total 129.5m
2012: GOP 61.0m DEM 66.0m Total 127.0m
2016: GOP 63.0m DEM 65.8m Total 128.8m
2020: GOP 74.2m DEM 81.3m Total 155.5m
2024: GOP 72.6m DEM 68.0m Total 140.6m

Massive increse in 2020 generally and for Dem specifically.
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In 2020 you had some unique factors that contributed to big turnout:

1. A big motivation to get Trump out.
2. A big feeling that Trump had mishandled Covid.
3. A white male, experienced, familiar candidate as an alternative to Trump.
 




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jordanseagull

Well-known member
Feb 11, 2009
4,151
GT49er said:
...................... and you think there'll be enough democrats to block it? Plus some too scared to risk their families by opposing it. Senate, congress and the judges all going/gone republican with big majorities. :facepalm: :(

We can always learn from history; so now we can learn from history what will happen. It's happened before.
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There absolutely will not be Democrats (and you'd need about 35% of them) voting to amend the Constitution to allow 3 term Presidencies to enable Trump, no. Obviously not.

For the avoidance of doubt, you cannot amend the Constitution with a majority, and the GOP have nothing close to the required senators/representatives to get such an amendment moving. They'd need a huge number of Dem senators/representatives to vote for it for an amendment to even get to the first stage of recommendation.
 
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nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
A1X said:
Reading too much into vote counts seems pointless before counting is over, it’s not like the UK where all the votes are counted and THEN we find out who wins
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Not sure it will changes much, the majority of Americans no longer value democracy.
 
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Pavilionaire

Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
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South Stand Bonfire said:
It wouldn't though would it. His supporters would make him a martyr .....and then no doubt partition the Pope for him to become a Saint,
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I think to partition the Pope is a bit extreme, and messy. Maybe they should just petition him?
 




Eeyore

Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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Withdean11 said:
There is an estimated 8m votes remaining to be counted just in California (57/40 D/R) so lets wait and see the final number.

But It's looking likely that Trump will have more votes than he did in 2020, whilst Harris will be way down on Biden's 2020 votes but still more than Clinton in 2016 & Obama in 2012.

Perhaps a better question would be where did Biden's additional votes come from?
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Did the election fixers get the wrong date ? 🤣

Why isn't Trump declaring a steal this time ? Why aren't the Democrats ?

I'm getting this horrible feel that the elections were fair all the time.
 




AZ Gull

AZ Gull

@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
Oct 14, 2003
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Chandler, AZ
Seagull58 said:
Failed in Florida and North Dakota inthis election though.
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I think you mean South Dakota, not North Dakota.

The Florida measure currently has 57% support, but in that state the requirement is to reach 60% so it will fail to pass.
 


RandyWanger

RandyWanger

Je suis rôti de boeuf
Mar 14, 2013
6,712
Done a Frexit, now in London
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Seagull58

Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,506
Vilamoura, Portugal
AZ Gull said:
I think you mean South Dakota, not North Dakota.

The Florida measure currently has 57% support, but in that state the requirement is to reach 60% so it will fail to pass.
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I meant South Dakota if they voted 55% against, the only state not to get a simple majority for the measure, although, as you say, Florida needed 60%
 


BBassic

BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,055
The wealth of the 10 richest people in the world – a list dominated by US tech billionaires – increased by a record amount after Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election, according to a widely cited index.

www.theguardian.com

Trump’s victory adds record $64bn to wealth of richest top 10

Share surge increases Elon Musk’s fortune by $26bn in a day as Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin and Bill Gates also benefit
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Hey look! Trump is already making people richer. He's not even in office yet.
 




Eeyore

Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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Is it PotG?

Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,455
Sussex by the Sea
It appears that in each area where those Labour folk were on holiday and not working, the Democrats lost quite a lot of votes.
 


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