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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*
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Hometownglory
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- Jan 12, 2014
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Agreed. I always feel safer with a convicted felons who suggest injecting bleach as a possible viral treatment.
she was never popular outside certain pockets of democrats, she got knocked out of the primaries fairly early in 2019 and looked out of her depth there.
She has run a really bad campaign after being parachuted in when a decent chunk of the party didn't want her.
I'm sure some people haven't voted for her because she's a black woman, I imagine most have not voted for her because she's an awful choice that not even her own party fully wanted.
Her going to bed rather than address her supporters sums up her performance.
nicko31
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If only that was the worst bit.
nicko31
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She didn’t run a bad campaign but she is woman and she is black.
America is still a largely sexist and racist country , it was always a tall order
hart's shirt
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It'll be easy to find low-hanging excuses based on colour or gender, but the Democrats engineered the situation by hiding Biden away and backing him with misplaced loyalty long after he'd become a political liability. If Harris loses, it'll be as much about not having enough time to put her own stamp on things as her connection with Biden. One can blame ordinary Americans / Trump-voters all one likes - it has, after all, been NSC's default setting for the last 8 years and looks likely to continue - but the Democrats have brought this situation on themselves with the mismanagement of their candidate selection. An absolute shambles.
As for Britain, the special relationship isn't looking all that special now.
A former Director of Public Prosecutions and a convicted felon will make uneasy political bedfellows.
As America lurches right politically and becomes even more insular, if this doesn't encourage Britain to take steps to reverse Brexit at the earliest opportunity, nothing will.
There's safety in numbers.
As for Britain, the special relationship isn't looking all that special now.
A former Director of Public Prosecutions and a convicted felon will make uneasy political bedfellows.
As America lurches right politically and becomes even more insular, if this doesn't encourage Britain to take steps to reverse Brexit at the earliest opportunity, nothing will.
There's safety in numbers.
nwgull
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I don’t blame her. Who else could’ve run after Biden dropped out several months later than he should have?
willalbion
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There’s that in part but I do think, as a previous poster mentioned. Most Americans felt better off financially under Trump. That nostalgia wins elections.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
That’s the problem with emotions. They can be manipulated by propaganda.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I think that is doing Americans a huge disservice. It didn't seem to matter that Obama was black. I don't think it matters that she is a woman either, she was just an uninspiring candidate. Trump is truly awful, dreadful and as thick as two planks, however he somehow appeals to a lot of people, the Democrats entered the race with Biden who was clearly losing it and failed miserably to find a younger and dynamic runner. Our politics over here has been pretty depressing the last ten years, but the US, they are off the chart.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Selfish prlcks but a sign of the global populist zeitgeist. The ‘little people’ fighting back against globalism, immigration and post-pandemic economies.
Had a feeling all long this election was on a knife-edge/toss up and a lot of people here were over-playing Harris’s chances - what a shltshow for the States and rest of the world.
Well Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania still to be called - the ‘blue wall’ that was always going go pave her only realistic route to 270 rather than any of the other swing states but the maths are a rapidly becoming impossible to overcome - just pockets of urban areas left now and with Trump out performing in the rest of the State, it’s not looking like Harris will make up the shortfall with urban or mail in votes.
Bad night for America bad night for us.
Worth repeating what I said last night, democracy is carving itself to splinters while autocracy is having its best year since 1937.
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She didn't cut through, her interviews and rallies where mainly about how bad Trump was and not what she wanted to do.
O it's 100 percent on Biden and the party.
They didn't have a proper succession plan and Biden should have pulled out months before.
The Lemming Stomper
Under the flag
It could be worse.....
It's such a small thing, but she wasn't cutting through with middle America, so what did she do?
Get a load of Hollywood stars to make patronising videos, that's going to work.
It’s very easy to say that the democrats had a bad campaign or Harris was the wrong person.
But the real story is the popularity of Trump. It would have taken someone like Obama to beat Trump this time round. He has won big. Trump attracts blind love or profound hate from the electorate. He found a way to tip the scales in a divided country. I don’t think it was down to what the democrats didn’t do, I think it was about what he did do. He promised wealth. Wealth to many voters who put money above anything else such as honesty, judgment or just plain human decency. He’s played a blinder.
You’re beginning it seems to doing a. good job yourself
nwgull
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Nah, he’s definitely a ****.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Unlike many here, I don't think this means the US is a bad country just as I don't think the UK is after Brexit. I cannot fathom how the Democrats ended up sticking with Biden, that decision was absolutely fatal for their chances. The sheer hubris of the democrats has proved fatal.