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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Germany’s growth is going well at the moment…. No surprise at level of corp tax

You obviously weren’t aware of the genius of their:
- Vocational education. 50% of 18 to 22 year olds follow this route, up to degree level for many. Far fewer study purely academic subjects than the UK.
- 3.3m Mittestand businesses, each with less than 500 employees, producing high quality niche goods and services.

The envy of Europe since WW2. As is their health service.
 






bluenitsuj

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Feb 26, 2011
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Herr Tubthumper

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True - but approval ratings for their policies aren't rock bottom. Make of that what you will.
This is quite interesting to know. I guess it means people are seeing through the noise of the free clothes and football tickets and focusing on the policies. Which, in my opinion, is how it should be.
 


Guinness Boy

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It’s not annoying, it’s how business grow and employ people to create things, sell things and everyone benefits.
You can still do a lot of business and be HQd somewhere else. I work for a company which has its Europe business headquartered in Ireland but they employ people from all over.

Big development teams in Eastern Europe, product leads in Ireland but a big sales and professional services team in the UK and digital nomads in France and Spain. All because we use a distributed teams model mostly working from home.

The biggest threat to my job isn’t tax. It’s Brexit. I do a lot of work in the Netherlands and I cannot guarantee being at a morning meeting there unless I travel the night before due to the appalling passport queues. More cost and more inconvenience.
 




Zeberdi

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Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
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Is that a quote from a Telegraph reader? If so - I guess it means that Starmer is doing pretty well in following Labour's underlying principles and befitting the wider good rather than the elite?
No ignorant and lazy stereotyping there then.

Where The Guardian might be useful for fillum reviews, The Telegraph has the best crossword by far. Open your mind.
 


jcdenton08

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Is that a quote from a Telegraph reader? If so - I guess it means that Starmer is doing pretty well in following Labour's underlying principles and befitting the wider good rather than the elite?
In fairness, there’s a generous spinning of the facts from the Guardian, followed by a harsh take from the Telegraph. Seems pretty standard.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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In fairness, there’s a generous spinning of the facts from the Guardian, followed by a harsh take from the Telegraph. Seems pretty standard.
Indeed.

Hardly a good thing celebrating the A27 bypass, it's been needed since the 80's and certainly wouldn't have been done in the Labour heartland
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
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Here we go again. How many of these types actually have the balls and/or gumption to get off their arses and actually do it? Zero? Next to none? Hollow words.
Whether there is any truth in that is open to question, although likely in some cases. Evidence of 'Zero' though would be debatable, many folk up sticks for work or whatever.
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Germany’s growth is going well at the moment…. No surprise at level of corp tax
I think you'll find that Germany's growth of late has been due to their prior high dependence on Russian gas, exacerbated by the large size of their manufacturing sector, and the transition away from it.
Longer-term, their car industry has been a significant part of their economy, and it's under threat by Chinese EVs. Maybe this is the point where @Weststander becomes less in awe of the German approach to economics and politics?
 




Guinness Boy

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Good. So we’re agreed, Musk is bad.

So it’s interesting that the only constant question for Peter Kyle across all media yesterday was “did you invite Elon Musk?”. To which he gave one of the correct answers, which is no, because he has no current or future investment plans here.

The other answer, of course, is “no because he’s a right wing conspiracy theorist and a Nazi tech bro who’s currently ruining the world”. It’s the answer I’d have given around about the fifth time I was asked, which is why Kyle is a politician and I’m not.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
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Good. So we’re agreed, Musk is bad.

So it’s interesting that the only constant question for Peter Kyle across all media yesterday was “did you invite Elon Musk?”. To which he gave one of the correct answers, which is no, because he has no current or future investment plans here.

The other answer, of course, is “no because he’s a right wing conspiracy theorist and a Nazi tech bro who’s currently ruining the world”. It’s the answer I’d have given around about the fifth time I was asked, which is why Kyle is a politician and I’m not.
To take a beating in those questions from Madeley made him look a little shaky.
 


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