[Albion] Aaron Connolly - joining Hull permanently

Milano said:

If the club knew he was out drinking in Burgess Hill then that changes my opinion somewhat, that is rock bottom......

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Han Solo said:

Yes, I've decided the majority of the problem is with the people (society) doing the coitizing rather than the young man thrown into the sickening environment that is created by the people (society).

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Han Solo said:

That is my belief when it comes to most substance abuse: the key to solving it isn't to make every individual perfect, it is to improve society.

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Han Solo said:

As for your second paragraph... if you say so. To me as an outsider, the weakness of British football has always been its belief in its own perfection. It doesn't matter how many world class talents Walcotts and Oxlade Chamberlains and Grealishs that eventually turn into a shrug, or how fearful the English players look in tournaments, knowing that if they do anything wrong they'll be abused for life; its all perfect, and nothing needs to change, and indeed nothing does change, eternally you remain a step behind everyone else.

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Han Solo said:

You're never ever going to produce a Zidane or Ronaldo or Messi or Haaland because you're perfect as you are. And thats great if you think its great, but it means there will always be a steady stream of Justin Fashanus, Paul Gascoignes and Aaron Connollys, vulnerable people destroyed in one way or another by the (perfect) perks of being a footballer in Britain.

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Lenny Rider said:

Unfortunately with the rise of social media, there were all kinds of videos doing the rounds. Whatever you do there’s always someone there to film you

I remember one particular one in a kebab/burger shop, it was like watching a car crash in slow motion.

At this point, this is where HR and Potter should have got hold of him and said “ Right, you’re moving in with Mrs Wiggins in Goring, you could probably do with some one to one counselling sessions with George Parris, we need to for an unspecified period monitor your social life and general down time as ultimately you are employed and paid by us to do a job that you’re coming up short on.”

I‘ve got a mate in my local in Spain, Gerry from Dublin, in 2019 he though AC was the second coming of Robbie Keane, he now jokes it was actually Robbie Coltrane.

Joking aside, this had all the hallmarks of a classic case of a wasted career/life, thankfully the young man has turned it around, and all of us, whether we were negative or positive about him over they years, should be pleased with the outcome.

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Milano said:

That works for someone under the age of 18. It is not enforeable for an adult, unless it was a specific clause in the contract, which it wasn't. HR can't really do a thing. The club could 'offer' it but if the adult doesn't accept then there is nothing they can do. If he's not performing, then all the manager can do is drop him. If it's really bad then the club could go for contract breach, but any good lawyer would point to other players doing the same thing.

The whole principal is based on the player WANTING the career enough that they are self-disciplined, he admits on the video that became his problem, he wanted the life of a rock star not a sports star. The club could offer help but not force it.

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Lenny Rider said:

Unfortunately with the rise of social media, there were all kinds of videos doing the rounds. Whatever you do there’s always someone there to film you

I remember one particular one in a kebab/burger shop, it was like watching a car crash in slow motion.

At this point, this is where HR and Potter should have got hold of him and said “ Right, you’re moving in with Mrs Wiggins in Goring, you could probably do with some one to one counselling sessions with George Parris, we need to for an unspecified period monitor your social life and general down time as ultimately you are employed and paid by us to do a job that you’re coming up short on.”

I‘ve got a mate in my local in Spain, Gerry from Dublin, in 2019 he though AC was the second coming of Robbie Keane, he now jokes it was actually Robbie Coltrane.

Joking aside, this had all the hallmarks of a classic case of a wasted career/life, thankfully the young man has turned it around, and all of us, whether we were negative or positive about him over they years, should be pleased with the outcome.

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Insel affe said:

who is to say or knows if the club did not attempt to help him, there were rumours that he was offered the opportunity to go out on loan to a championship club and he himself declined and opted to fight for his place, maybe that was an attempt to help Aaron by taking him away from the hanger on folks, if true he did not fight very hard, he floundered and suffered.

Lets hope he can move on and fulfil that potential we all saw and got frustrated with.

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Moshe Gariani said:

Agree with most of this. I remember a round of golf during the time, with a friend who is inside pro football and he laid the blame firmly with Potter. It is the responsibility of the Manager (Head Coach) to oversee the development of young players in the First Team squad. Very obvious what was needed. Not easy to do though - and certainly too much for our Graham (MSc).

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Milano said:

Not me. I'm on the side of the club on this one. If 'sides' is really the correct thing here.

I'm fed up with the narrative that everything is always someone elses fault. Unless you're under 18 then that's 99% of the time bollocks.

To be fair to AC he's not blaming anyone else. That hasn't stopped some on this thread inferring that the club let him down somehow.

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Dibdab said:

But Arron has admitted it was his partying and drinking that's the problem, not people on social media? You know something he doesn't?

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Lenny Rider said:

Unfortunately with the rise of social media, there were all kinds of videos doing the rounds. Whatever you do there’s always someone there to film you

I remember one particular one in a kebab/burger shop, it was like watching a car crash in slow motion.

At this point, this is where HR and Potter should have got hold of him and said “ Right, you’re moving in with Mrs Wiggins in Goring, you could probably do with some one to one counselling sessions with George Parris, we need to for an unspecified period monitor your social life and general down time as ultimately you are employed and paid by us to do a job that you’re coming up short on.”

I‘ve got a mate in my local in Spain, Gerry from Dublin, in 2019 he though AC was the second coming of Robbie Keane, he now jokes it was actually Robbie Coltrane.

Joking aside, this had all the hallmarks of a classic case of a wasted career/life, thankfully the young man has turned it around, and all of us, whether we were negative or positive about him over they years, should be pleased with the outcome.

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Dibdab said:

But Arron has admitted it was his partying and drinking that's the problem, not people on social media? You know something he doesn't?

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Kalimantan Gull said:

I think it's fair to suggest that part of the reason he was out boozing all the time, drinking his sorrows away, was the abuse he was receiving online, and because he couldn't live up to the expectations that had been fosted on him.

Then if course it becomes circular, but I think it's a reasonable point to make.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

Really? Some people just like to party

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Moshe Gariani said:

Agree with most of this. I remember a round of golf during the time, with a friend who is inside pro football and he laid the blame firmly with Potter. It is the responsibility of the Manager (Head Coach) to oversee the development of young players in the First Team squad. Very obvious what was needed. Not easy to do though - and certainly too much for our Graham (MSc).

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Han Solo said:

Becoming an alcoholic and/or partying your life and career away are symptoms of other things being wrong. If he or you doesn't know that, then yes I know something he and you doesn't.

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