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Won't be pursuing Bagaykoko?



Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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LI, the thing we do know about Bagayoko is that he is quick, while the likes of Butters, Mayo, Reid and Hart aren't. If they slip up he would be there to provide cover behind them.

It's all very well getting in a defender on loan, but because our experienced defenders are slow we must have someone who is quick, i.e. McShane. However, quick, experienced defenders who are good will be out of our reach.

A back 4 of El-Abd, Hinsh, Lynch and Bagayoko would have looked pretty solid to me.
 




Barrel of Fun

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Uncle Buck said:
Mayo was not good considered good enough to play midfield when we were in Division 3 in 1999 so how come at a higher level he is not thought to be OK?

From last season he looked much better when pushed up and wasn't exposed by the pacy wingers, plus he wasn't scared to have a crack at goal, when as a team we were relatively shot-shy. All I was saying that if he is deemed to be a liability at left back and I think he is a dab hand in midfield. Fairly good tackler, good distributor.
 


Pavilionaire said:
A back 4 of El-Abd, Hinsh, Lynch and Bagayoko would have looked pretty solid to me.
So we may end up with El-Abd, Hinsh, Butters and Lynch?

Just don't go along with this writing off of Butters, I still think he has a big role to play for us this season.
 


Uncle Buck

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BarrelofFun said:
From last season he looked much better when pushed up and wasn't exposed by the pacy wingers, plus he wasn't scared to have a crack at goal, when as a team we were relatively shot-shy. All I was saying that if he is deemed to be a liability at left back and I think he is a dab hand in midfield. Fairly good tackler, good distributor.

Good distributor? His passing range was never great even when he played 40 odd games in midfield. When he was younger he was reasonably good at getting into goal scoring positions from midfield, but that was in the bottom league.
 






Les Biehn

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Aug 14, 2005
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Uncle Buck said:
Of those right backs, only one is a right back in Paul Hinshlewood, the others are midfielders or centre backs. Putting a fit Adam Hinshleood in there is a waste of probably our best centre back.

With regards to the left backs Mayo and Rents could be OK, again I think it would be a waste using Lynch there.

However you know at Rotherham that Hart will play at right back and Reid at left back....

Jesus Bucky you are getting pedantic. I have said these players CAN play in these positions so they are not urgently needing new players, although I agree that LB could do with a boost.

How is Lynch a waste at LB if he is good there, he is our best option there and we have other good centre halfs in El-Abd, Hinsh, Butters and potentially Elphick.

I still can't believe you think Mayo is even a option, his pace means he gets mullered at LB.
 


Uncle Buck

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Les Biehn said:
Jesus Bucky you are getting pedantic. I have said these players CAN play in these positions so they are not urgently needing new players, although I agree that LB could do with a boost.

How is Lynch a waste at LB if he is good there, he is our best option there and we have other good centre halfs in El-Abd, Hinsh, Butters and potentially Elphick.

I still can't believe you think Mayo is even a option, his pace means he gets mullered at LB.

If both fit Lynch and Hinsh certainly could be a decent long term pairing at centre back, ideally I would like to see a three man pairing with Butters there as well.

It seems we will not get the best out of Lynch at left back.
 


vulture

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Maybe he has been offered terms but his agent is asking much 2 much so maybe this is a ploy by Mcghee to get him to lower his demands maybe
 




Les Biehn

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Uncle Buck said:
If both fit Lynch and Hinsh certainly could be a decent long term pairing at centre back, ideally I would like to see a three man pairing with Butters there as well.

It seems we will not get the best out of Lynch at left back.

Having seen him in both positions I actually think he looks better at LB.
 




Les Biehn

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Uncle Buck said:
When has Lynch played competitive football at centre back?

The fact is he has the height to play at the centre and I would say as a left back at times he has looked uncomfortable carrying the ball forward.

I do agree about his qualities but when have you seen him play center half at a competitive level. At least I am basing my assumptions on having seen him play center half even if it wasn't competitive.
 
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Uncle Buck

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Les Biehn said:
I do agree about his qualities but when have you seen him play center half at a competitive level. At least I am basing my assumptions on having seen him play center half even if it wasn't competitive.

Worthing is about the only game I have seen him play there in pre-season. Beyond that the occasional reserve game. Long term he will be a centre back and feel as we have Mayo and Rents who can play left back we should be playing him in the centre of defence.
 


Les Biehn

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Uncle Buck said:
Worthing is about the only game I have seen him play there in pre-season. Beyond that the occasional reserve game. Long term he will be a centre back and feel as we have Mayo and Rents who can play left back we should be playing him in the centre of defence.

I agree long term but while we have more options at RB then El-Abd needs to play in the middle with Hinsh and have Lynch on the left. Still this may all be a pointless conversation given all the injuries.
 






Les Biehn

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Uncle Buck said:
I would say we have less options at right back as we have no specialist right back with games under his belt.

Butwhat would stop Hart or Reid dong a good job there? They are both better options at Rb than Mayo is at LB and Rents is young so can't be relyed upon to fill that position all season.
 


Uncle Buck

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Les Biehn said:
Butwhat would stop Hart or Reid dong a good job there? They are both better options at Rb than Mayo is at LB and Rents is young so can't be relyed upon to fill that position all season.

They are not right backs for starters and they both struggled there last season.

Hart is a striker, who happens to have then played on the right of midfield, but he is not a right back and he was a liabilty when he played there last season.
 


Les Biehn

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Uncle Buck said:
They are not right backs for starters and they both struggled there last season.

Hart is a striker, who happens to have then played on the right of midfield, but he is not a right back and he was a liabilty when he played there last season.

Reid had his dodgy moments but in general I thought they both did ok. Most importantly Hart improved greatly in that position and looked really solid towards the end of the season. He has all the attributes to be a RB.
 




Tony Meolas Loan Spell

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Jul 15, 2004
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Fragmented Badger said:
All the excuses that McGhee/Knight roll out about our inability to sign a striker are mainly pretty pathetic, but just occasionally you can see their point of view. However, to claim we can't afford to sign defenders is frankly taking the piss. I would have thought that if you are manager of a poor club without significant resources, then you instantly decide to base your team around a solid defence. Defenders don't, on the whole, cost too much, and it shouldn't be an impossible task to organise them correctly. If you can do that, which really should be in McGhee's capabilities (well, maybe not), then you will always be moderately successful, as one goal will normally guarantee you don't lose a game, and whilst I don't fancy CKR/Revell/Robinson etc to bang in 30 a piece, they should be capable of getting one or two a game in this league. Sort it out McGhee:)


After all thats what Taylor did....but Magoo cant coach, hence probably why Deano has stepped up.
 
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British Bulldog

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Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
After all thats what Taylor did....but Magoo cant coach, hence probably why Deano has stepped up.

I think Deano has stepped up because we are preparing to go with youth this season.
 


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