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What determines nationality?
- Thread starter Citrus
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if your with the irish fa - where your dogs been
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Where's the option for European?
Globally, there seems to be some support for the "where you were born" argument. Hence those with dual nationality who were simply born when their parents were abroad for some reason.
For the same reason, there must be a linkage with where your parents were born or are resident.
Personally, I think it has, (should have) nothing to do with race.
You left citizenship off the poll. There is an argument that you remain stateless until you earn the right to be a citizen of a nation.
That does take us into some rather contentious areas though.
Then again, there is the Thomas Paine quote.
"The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."
For the same reason, there must be a linkage with where your parents were born or are resident.
Personally, I think it has, (should have) nothing to do with race.
You left citizenship off the poll. There is an argument that you remain stateless until you earn the right to be a citizen of a nation.
That does take us into some rather contentious areas though.
Then again, there is the Thomas Paine quote.
"The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."
dougdeep
New member
binky said:
What does he know? He was a rook!
Dandyman
In London village.
fatboy said:
You're Botswanian and you know you are !
Dandyman
In London village.
fatboy said:
Not guilty. I don't give out mobile numbers to strangers...
Dandyman
In London village.
fatboy said:
Shropshire Seagull
Well-known member
fatboy said:
Babies born in flight on areoplanes (yes, rare I know) can take the nationality of the airspace they were in at the time of birth, or choose the parents nationality.
Grandparents can come into the equation too (since Virgs plays for Jockland I believe)
So I reckon its all of them ?
*stands to be corrected
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Where you were born
Robot Chicken
Seriously?
fatboy said:
What about Emilio Marcos Palma?
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The Clown of Pevensey Bay
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fatboy said:
Bollocks to them. They were South African when I was born (and have since naturalised) but I'm not South African.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
A real life poser ...
A former work colleague of mine was born in Hungary of Hungarian parents, who fled that country when the Russians invaded in 1956.
The family went to South Africa, where she grew up. She then married an Englishman, who brought her to Britain.
She subsequently divorced him.
Because she had fled Hungary in 1956, she was stripped of her Hungarian nationality. She was never offered South African nationality (and never wanted it). The South Africans accepted her as a Hungarian (because they didn't like the Russians). When she married the Englishman, she became entitled to a UK passport, but she lost that entitlement when she got divorced.
What nationality is she now? Not British, it would seem, But where should the UK authorities deport her to, since she has no entitlement to stay here?
Does it make any difference that, since her divorce, she has met an Englishman and they have had a child, but they haven't married? What nationality is she now? And what is the nationality of her child?
A former work colleague of mine was born in Hungary of Hungarian parents, who fled that country when the Russians invaded in 1956.
The family went to South Africa, where she grew up. She then married an Englishman, who brought her to Britain.
She subsequently divorced him.
Because she had fled Hungary in 1956, she was stripped of her Hungarian nationality. She was never offered South African nationality (and never wanted it). The South Africans accepted her as a Hungarian (because they didn't like the Russians). When she married the Englishman, she became entitled to a UK passport, but she lost that entitlement when she got divorced.
What nationality is she now? Not British, it would seem, But where should the UK authorities deport her to, since she has no entitlement to stay here?
Does it make any difference that, since her divorce, she has met an Englishman and they have had a child, but they haven't married? What nationality is she now? And what is the nationality of her child?
Lord Cornwallis
Dust my pants
The nationality of your father and the country in which you were born.
Me, Dutch father, born in Holland = 100% Cloggy.
My two sisters, Dutch father, born in England = duel nationality.
Me, Dutch father, born in Holland = 100% Cloggy.
My two sisters, Dutch father, born in England = duel nationality.
Lord Cornwallis
Dust my pants
Mum English by the way, but that is not a factor. Unless looking for citizenship, work permit, passport etc.