[NSC] Vaccine passport required to enter Amex

[n1 gull]

If they have a negative LFT they can get in, can’t they?

Yes they can but I think they are trying to stop this for nightclubs

 

[n1 gull]

Sorry, but I've asked you over and over again why you won't go yourself when you say you are vaccinated and you've not once answered it. It's a totally illogical position to take, cutting off your nose to spite your face, so forgive me for getting quite frustrated. You are not making sense. If you're vaccinated no one is keeping YOU from the football and if you're protesting by keeping your seat empty then, sorry, no one is really going to care that much.

Regarding the bolded bit it's an incentive, not a punishment. Again, being pro vax yourself, as you claim is your position, makes no sense. Get a jab, go to a game, help the country, protect yourself and those around you. It's win all round. There's a tiny minority who will have to wait a while longer, like the needle phobic chap on here and people with extreme allergies, but for everyone else there is literally no excuse.

You really seem to care

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Yes they can but I think they are trying to stop this for nightclubs

As an aside, when are the government going to announce their plans? They’re supposed to be in place by the end of month and there’s not much time left for businesses to adjust.

 

[Guinness Boy]

If they have a negative LFT they can get in, can’t they?

To football, yes, at the moment but the club expect this to end in October. Suspect the Covid Pass will be double jab only by then.

 

[Guinness Boy]

You really seem to care

I care that you're avoiding the question (again). It goes to the integrity of your posts.

 

[Weststander]

Yes they can but I think they are trying to stop this for nightclubs

Still going ahead.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/coronavirus-passport-clubbing-nightclub-venues-b1884752.html%3Famp

 

[n1 gull]

As an aside, when are the government going to announce their plans? They’re supposed to be in place by the end of month and there’s not much time left for businesses to adjust.

Not sure and it will be interesting to see what Labour will do.
Keir at the moment is opposed and with the libertarian wing of the Tories that would probably scare off the bill.

I think it's probably a vote winner so Kier will go with Boris and it will go through

 

[beorhthelm]

Still going ahead.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/coronavirus-passport-clubbing-nightclub-venues-b1884752.html%3Famp

and thats why i'd be against it. expensive, unreliable and easily gamed, and doesnt encourage people to get vaccine. we need to stop blanket testing.

 

[n1 gull]

I care that you're avoiding the question (again). It goes to the integrity of your posts.

What am I avoiding? Honestly you feel like a stalker. I have been nothing but open in a hostile enviroment.

What do you want?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

To football, yes, at the moment but the club expect this to end in October. Suspect the Covid Pass will be double jab only by then.

Have the club actually said they expect this to end? If so, this is shit for people like me , as the club don’t recognize my EU Covid pass and have told me to get a LFT. I know others in a similar boat….as you do.

 

[Weststander]

and thats why i'd be against it. expensive, unreliable and easily gamed, and doesnt encourage people to get vaccine. we need to stop blanket testing.

Just asking … isn’t the proof that it does encourage, the French example where they were way behind us in vaccine uptake, then an under fire Macron introduced Vaccine Passports. Overnight millions of the reticent and obstinate booked their first dose?

Would be lower numbers involved here due to the huge numbers already fully vax’d.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

and thats why i'd be against it. expensive, unreliable and easily gamed, and doesnt encourage people to get vaccine. we need to stop blanket testing.

They need to start beinging in charges to test to do stuff you can do freely when double jabbed.

Certain American states/companies has it right.

 

[beorhthelm]

Just asking … isn’t the proof that it does encourage, the French example where they were way behind us in vaccine uptake, then an under fire Macron introduced Vaccine Passports. Overnight millions of the reticent and obstinate booked their first dose?

Would be lower numbers involved here due to the huge numbers already fully vax’d.

vaccine passports encourage uptake of vaccines. what motivation to get vaccinated if you can just keep testing as an alternative?

 

[LamieRobertson]

They need to start beinging in charges to test to do stuff you can do freely when double jabbed.

Certain American states/companies has it right.

They can…but then I’ll do neither (hmm..maybe I’d pay for football)…although I think it’s a good point re tests…as in highlighting the cost of each one..I’m sure people think they cost nothing to make etc

 

[rogersix]

why does anyone care about this? if people don't want to join in and be a part of their community, they can stay at home and go gently madder. meanwhile, everyone else can just get on with their lives. everyone gets what they want, it's one of those very rare, win wins

 

[Guinness Boy]

Have the club actually said they expect this to end? If so, this is shit for people like me , as the club don’t recognize my EU Covid pass and have told me to get a LFT. I know others in a similar boat….as you do.

It's a grey area and you're better off continuing to discuss with the club.

It's expected that the NHS Covid Pass will only be valid if you're double jabbed from October but, of course, this is Boris, so anything could happen. The club could then continue to accept lateral flow test passes of course but I'm not sure of what the documentation would be. Wouldn't you need rock solid proof of a negative PCB to get here in the first place?

If the club aren't taking overseas jab proof that really is very poor. My mum can use her NHS pass to get in restaurants in France. I'd suggest you and UB find others in your situation and try to have a reasonable discussion with the club as a group. I'm sure they'd want to accommodate you.

 

[Guinness Boy]

What am I avoiding? Honestly you feel like a stalker. I have been nothing but open in a hostile enviroment.

What do you want?

Simple. An answer to the two questions you've never directly answered.

1) You have said your two seats will be empty but also that you are pro-vax and double jabbed. Why will your seat be empty? You can get in.
2) If the answer to 1 is "as a protest" do you really think that will be successful? If you are a continued no show the club may not let you renew and you'll not be able to go after the requirement is dropped.

1) is the important one BTW. You've never answered it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It's a grey area and you're better off continuing to discuss with the club.

It's expected that the NHS Covid Pass will only be valid if you're double jabbed from October but, of course, this is Boris, so anything could happen. The club could then continue to accept lateral flow test passes of course but I'm not sure of what the documentation would be. Wouldn't you need rock solid proof of a negative PCB to get here in the first place?

If the club aren't taking overseas jab proof that really is very poor. My mum can use her NHS pass to get in restaurants in France. I'd suggest you and UB find others in your situation and try to have a reasonable discussion with the club as a group. I'm sure they'd want to accommodate you.

It is a bit frustrating that my EU Covid passport can get me into the UK but currently not into the AMEX. It’s also in English so there’s no issue with language.

I know two other people in my situation so I’ll post something on here and see if there’s anyone else.

 

[Guinness Boy]

It is a bit frustrating that my EU Covid passport can get me into the UK but currently not into the AMEX. It’s also in English so there’s no issue with language.

I know two other people in my situation so I’ll post something on here and see if there’s anyone else.

Good luck mate - that seems very silly.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

It is a bit frustrating that my EU Covid passport can get me into the UK but currently not into the AMEX. It’s also in English so there’s no issue with language.

I know two other people in my situation so I’ll post something on here and see if there’s anyone else.

Good luck with it. The club should be recognizing your EU pass and have had plenty of time to incorporate it into policy. Bearing in mind the cursory or non existent checks of the UK equivalent it wouldn’t even be that difficult. Isn’t there a fans forum coming up ? Maybe raise it there.