pasty said:Thank you tedebear for putting it across so much more eloquently.
yippeee I'm eloquent!!
he he - made my day Pasty!!
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yippeee I'm eloquent!!
he he - made my day Pasty!!
Tom Bombadil
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tedebear said:
Another selfish rant. Grow up, our taxes go to pay for things we personally don't agree with or beneft from. Get over it.
At least Microsoft do not take you to Court for using a different system on a computer. Even Bill Gates does not force his near monopoly by sending around spies in detector vans.
Windows might be a necessity, but the BBC is only a desirable option.
Windows might be a necessity, but the BBC is only a desirable option.
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But fairYorkie said:
Curious Orange
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tedebear said:
And I don't like having my viewing pleasure interrupted by advertising.
I know lets have a compromise, we'll abolish both the TV Licence and Ad breaks. We'll pay for all TV by subscription....., and then moan about the exhorbitant cost of it!!!
Voroshilov said:
So you never moan about the taxes you pay? ever?
Do taxes affect the way you vote? they do me! Tax is something we all should be able to have a say in - I believe my taxes should go to social services which I/my family and community will need - not to fund something which promotes sitting on your bum in front of a box being a couch potato?
Selfish you say? no - its an educated opinion to which I'm entitled...
Tom Bombadil
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tedebear said:
Of course they effect how I vote. I vote for parties that will use the tax system to help the poorest and most vunerable members of society and also will most enrich our cultural experience.
Voroshilov said:
excellent - so paying tax for a device to ensure people sit on their bums in front of an illuminated box is a worthwhile tax??
Curious Orange
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tedebear said:
As you are a colonial
I'll assume you'll never have had the pleasure of sitting through any of the schools programming that is shown on BBC2 (and Channel 4 - also a public service broadcaster)? Do you think schools programming would get an airtime in a completely commercial arena? Is this something you wouldn't consider worthy of spending any of your money on?
colonial - pah
Does a school pay a tv license?? just asking as I believe this is a justifiable reason to pay - if it is used - my arguement is that many people dont!
Does a school pay a tv license?? just asking as I believe this is a justifiable reason to pay - if it is used - my arguement is that many people dont!
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Lammy
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I have no objection with the TV licence.
What I DO object to is paying for digital services that I cannot receive for free. What other industry could get away with that?
If I didn't pay the proportion of my TV licence that goes towards services I cannot receive I would go to prison.
THAT is just WRONG.
What I DO object to is paying for digital services that I cannot receive for free. What other industry could get away with that?
If I didn't pay the proportion of my TV licence that goes towards services I cannot receive I would go to prison.
THAT is just WRONG.
Terrace Dandy
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34064 Fighter Command said:
And what about the people who hate sport altogether then? should they be forced to pay for something they don't watch?
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Voroshilov said:
Yes our taxes do go to things we don't agree with like, asylum seekers, funding illegal wars, etc.
Tom Bombadil
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tedebear said:
Yes because we're gonna sit on our bums any way watching tv, may as well get some quality and variety.
Voroshilov said:
I beg to differ - I grew up in a house without tv - my life has always been full of quality and variety by what my parents and now me go to see and do....the tv provides a very journalistic view of the world that can be far different from reality!!
Tom Bombadil
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tedebear said:
Well you don't seem that in touch with reality to me.
Voroshilov said:
excellent - you've formed an opinion of me over half a dozen postings on a chat site.....where is your reality now?
In the end it all comes down to whom the Government thinks deserves the charter. The renewal of which comes up in 2006.
Greg Dyke's BBC tended to go for populist shows, to make sure them got the viewing figures and that their percentage didn't drop below the dreaded 33%.
After the Hutton report the BBC was (rightly or wrongly) ripped apart. Dyke went and Thompson entered the building. Thompson's approach was completly different. Instead of chasing viewers he deceided he would tick all the boxes for PSB (public service broadcasting).
This, whether you like it or not is a wise move. Thompson needed (and is still trying) to make the BBC distinctive. They can't just copy shows from ITV and C4! If they were to simply copy these other broadcasters then they wouldn't be distintive, and if they are not distintive why do they deserve the TV Licence money ahead of ITV or C4.
As things stand I imagine they will get the charter renewal, but I belive the Licence fee will not rise. The worst case scenario is that the Government deceide to give the momey to another company (most likely ITV) - This would almost kill the BBC completly.. even having the option of a percentage of the PSB money going to another company would be seriously crippling.
Never has the BBC had to walk the wire so carefully. Not since the days of Thatcher.
Greg Dyke's BBC tended to go for populist shows, to make sure them got the viewing figures and that their percentage didn't drop below the dreaded 33%.
After the Hutton report the BBC was (rightly or wrongly) ripped apart. Dyke went and Thompson entered the building. Thompson's approach was completly different. Instead of chasing viewers he deceided he would tick all the boxes for PSB (public service broadcasting).
This, whether you like it or not is a wise move. Thompson needed (and is still trying) to make the BBC distinctive. They can't just copy shows from ITV and C4! If they were to simply copy these other broadcasters then they wouldn't be distintive, and if they are not distintive why do they deserve the TV Licence money ahead of ITV or C4.
As things stand I imagine they will get the charter renewal, but I belive the Licence fee will not rise. The worst case scenario is that the Government deceide to give the momey to another company (most likely ITV) - This would almost kill the BBC completly.. even having the option of a percentage of the PSB money going to another company would be seriously crippling.
Never has the BBC had to walk the wire so carefully. Not since the days of Thatcher.