Trialists

[Napper]

If this Ashby trialist is true

Are these trialists the way to go ?
I'm not convinced, It seems to me we are shopping in the Pound shop when we've got £25 in our pocket . . .

The quote in the argus about Turienzo by McGhee concerns me

"He is exactly to sort of player we need" but "we're not sure how good he is"

I think we should be looking at players that we don't need to trial first , Dodd didn't need a trial did he. Lets get players we know can do a job judging by CV

 

[Gully]

Fair comment, at least then it would look like we actually scout players, rather than just giving trials to anybody who is available and indicates that they might be willing to join us.

 

[y2dave]

MM has said all along the Harding tribunal has delayed his efforts to bring new players in. We got confirmation yesterday and he wants to add faces over the next month. We won't have them all before Derby. Now he knows what money is available we could be looking at contracted players and not freebies who need to prove themselves on trial. The Tribunal timing has really hampered our efforts to bring players but not taking the 250k Leeds offered has been proved a good decision.

 

[Gully]

Point taken y2dave, just as always we must be patient, far better to wait for the right players in the long run, the team we see at Derby will probably be far different to what we see by the middle of September.

 

[Napper]

MM has said all along the Harding tribunal has delayed his efforts to bring new players in. We got confirmation yesterday and he wants to add faces over the next month. We won't have them all before Derby. Now he knows what money is available we could be looking at contracted players and not freebies who need to prove themselves on trial. The Tribunal timing has really hampered our efforts to bring players but not taking the 250k Leeds offered has been proved a good decision.

We certainly couldn't get the 5 until the Harding money was confirmed but I think we possibly could of got 2

 

[Publius Ovidius]

If this Ashby trialist is true

Are these trialists the way to go ?
I'm not convinced, It seems to me we are shopping in the Pound shop when we've got £25 in our pocket . . .

The quote in the argus about Turienzo by McGhee concerns me

"He is exactly to sort of player we need" but "we're not sure how good he is"

I think we should be looking at players that we don't need to trial first , Dodd didn't need a trial did he. Lets get players we know can do a job judging by CV

How dare you question the way we look at players? have you ever managed a football side? Do you know what the price of King Edwards are? sheesh

 

[Napper]

MM has said all along the Harding tribunal has delayed his efforts to bring new players in. We got confirmation yesterday and he wants to add faces over the next month. We won't have them all before Derby. Now he knows what money is available we could be looking at contracted players and not freebies who need to prove themselves on trial. The Tribunal timing has really hampered our efforts to bring players but not taking the 250k Leeds offered has been proved a good decision.

I suppose my point in thread is , the Harding money is now confirmed + the very next day if rumour is true we are getting Barry Ashby , a 35 year old defender ....... on trial.
Don't get me wrong McGhee is amazing, but lets quit with the trialist route and get in players that don't need 90 mins to prove we want them. 250k for a defender .. . job done !

 

[Publius Ovidius]

without wishing to be castigated, I am also concerned that we have a defence with Tank ( 34 ish) Dodds( 35 ish) Ashby( 35ish) Mayo (late 40's)

Replacing Virgo (20ish) and Hammond ( 20 ish)

 

[Yoda]

Fish has got a good CV yet he's still on trial.

 

[Superseagull]

Got to agree that if you want quality players you have to pay.

Getting the odd out of contract player now and again is all part of building a squad, but we need some quality players who will be at the club for 2 or 3 seasons to come.

Lets hope McGhee has some targets in mind and things develop quickly over the next week or so otherwise we could be in real trouble.

Ashby could be good cover for Butters, but at 35 he ain't going to be around long and could get stuffed for pace.

 

[y2dave]

I suppose my point in thread is , the Harding money is now confirmed + the very next day if rumour is true we are getting Barry Ashby , a 35 year old defender ....... on trial.
Don't get me wrong McGhee is amazing, but lets quit with the trialist route and get in players that don't need 90 mins to prove we want them. 250k for a defender .. . job done !

I think patience will be required. If we can get Blayney, 1 center back and a winger or left back by Derby I will be chuffed.

Ashby deserves a chance, him and Butters have played together succesfully and he has plenty of experience in fighting relegation from the Championship. Him and Butters as a pair is not a season long solution but I'm sure he prove his worth over the season. Rather him than Berthe for Derby.

 

[Lokki 7]

without wishing to be castigated

What does castigation involve Dave? It sounds very painful.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

What does castigation involve Dave? It sounds very painful.

its a form of negative feedback

LOL

 

[Publius Ovidius]

.
him and Butters have played together succesfully

Three + years ago!!!!!

 

[Ex Shelton Seagull]

Our defence is increasingly looking like it'll be travelling to games on the Sunshine Variety bus. If we add Mark Fish & Barry Ashby to the back line it gives us:
Butters - 34
Dodd - 34
Ashby - 34
Fish - 31 or 33 (depending on which site you look at!)

Yet up front I think McCammon is our oldest striker who's nearly 27. The others are either in their late teens or early twenties.

 

[Napper]

I think patience will be required. If we can get Blayney, 1 center back and a winger or left back by Derby I will be chuffed.

Ashby deserves a chance, him and Butters have played together succesfully and he has plenty of experience in fighting relegation from the Championship. Him and Butters as a pair is not a season long solution but I'm sure he prove his worth over the season. Rather him than Berthe for Derby.

I know what you're saying but its hard to be patient when we are only 8 days from the start and we have blatant gaps in our team/squad which we seem to be bargain basement shopping to plug these with trialists.
Im sure we'll get some quality in soon, but I've been saying this for a while and am now wanting to see proven players not bit part trialists.
Of course whoever comes in I will back 100% but just voicing concerns

 

[Superseagull]

I know what you're saying but its hard to be patient when we are only 8 days from the start and we have blatant gaps in our team/squad which we seem to be bargain basement shopping to plug these with trialists.
Im sure we'll get some quality in soon, but I've been saying this for a while and am now wanting to see proven players not bit part trialists.
Of course whoever comes in I will back 100% but just voicing concerns

Not only 8 days befor ethe start of the season, but 1 month (i think) away from the transfer window.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Ashby deserves a chance

Why does he deserve a chance?

He's a plodding lump of a central defender who has been floating around the lower reaches of this division / upper reaches of League 1 for the last 15 years? What more do you need to find out?

 

[Scarface]

Why does he deserve a chance?

He's a plodding lump of a central defender who has been floating around the lower reaches of this division / upper reaches of League 1 for the last 15 years? What more do you need to find out?

He has played consistantly in the Championship for Gillingham for 8 years. And from what I have read people seem to think he is still pretty useful.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Didn't Gillingham go down, and hasn't he just got one year older?