[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[WATFORD zero]

Yeah, but it was David Cameron's overconfidence about the Brexit vote that lined it up the bungler to step in and fukk it all up completely.

And there's the ultimate irony. In order to try and paper over the cracks in his party, he kicked off a chain of events which could ultimately destroy it

Obviously with sterling support from Johnson, Truss and Sunak

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

Any more business people jumping ship following John Caudwell and Theo Paphitis. I see even Jim Ratcliffe has been sticking the knife in.

 

[chickens]

Any more business people jumping ship following John Caudwell and Theo Paphitis. I see even Jim Ratcliffe has been sticking the knife in.

I’ve noted this recent trend of “Captains of Industry” telling everyone publicly which way they’re going to vote.

Am I alone in being slightly uncomfortable with it? I can’t precisely say why I’m uncomfortable with it, it just feels a bit “hey unwashed masses who I openly despise, I’m voting Labour, so it’s ok for you plebs to vote Labour too.”

 

[Audax]

And there's the ultimate irony. In order to try and paper over the cracks in his party, he kicked off a chain of events which could ultimately destroy it

Obviously with sterling support from Johnson, Truss and Sunak

Let's not forget May. The Maybot helped to set the trajectory.

 

[Hamilton]

For those who don’t know him, Sir Simon Case is the most senior civil servant and supposed to maintain standards and be apolitical.

He was appointed by Boris Johnson.

Now he is standing to become a Tory MP in a safe seat. It all smacks of the rotten boroughs of old.

Now, rather than face a hustings debate he has gone into hiding.

Prospective Tory MP turns down local hustings invite amid 'packed diary'

Sir Simon has been accused of 'arrogance' by a rival candidate over his decision not to attend

www.gazettelive.co.uk

 

[Hamilton]

I’ve noted this recent trend of “Captains of Industry” telling everyone publicly which way they’re going to vote.

Am I alone in being slightly uncomfortable with it? I can’t precisely say why I’m uncomfortable with it, it just feels a bit “hey unwashed masses who I openly despise, I’m voting Labour, so it’s ok for you plebs to vote Labour too.”

It has always happened though. Normally they’ve been silent or supported Tories, but even they know that the Tories are in such open rebellion that they will only damage UK Plc more.

This election is far far from over. We must not let Sunak rule from a party so determined to lurch from right to far right all the time.

 

[chickens]

For those who don’t know him, Sir Simon Case is the most senior civil servant and supposed to maintain standards and be apolitical.

He was appointed by Boris Johnson.

Now he is standing to become a Tory MP in a safe seat. It all smacks of the rotten boroughs of old.

Now, rather than face a hustings debate he has gone into hiding.

Prospective Tory MP turns down local hustings invite amid 'packed diary'

Sir Simon has been accused of 'arrogance' by a rival candidate over his decision not to attend

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Possibly a misunderstanding, but that article is about Sir Simon Clarke

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

C

For those who don’t know him, Sir Simon Case is the most senior civil servant and supposed to maintain standards and be apolitical.

He was appointed by Boris Johnson.

Now he is standing to become a Tory MP in a safe seat. It all smacks of the rotten boroughs of old.

Now, rather than face a hustings debate he has gone into hiding.

Prospective Tory MP turns down local hustings invite amid 'packed diary'

Sir Simon has been accused of 'arrogance' by a rival candidate over his decision not to attend

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Case is not standing for election. But Starmer will boot him out when he wins

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

For those who don’t know him, Sir Simon Case is the most senior civil servant and supposed to maintain standards and be apolitical.

He was appointed by Boris Johnson.

Now he is standing to become a Tory MP in a safe seat. It all smacks of the rotten boroughs of old.

Now, rather than face a hustings debate he has gone into hiding.

Prospective Tory MP turns down local hustings invite amid 'packed diary'

Sir Simon has been accused of 'arrogance' by a rival candidate over his decision not to attend

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Just had a well attended hustings in Medway for all three of our local seats run by the local paper. Not one of the three Tories turned up ( two sitting M.P.s and one new candidate ). They are just running away from public engagement and scrutiny about their record and future policies.

 

[Hamilton]

C

Case is not standing for election. But Starmer will boot him out when he wins

You are correct.

My cases and clarkes getting mixed up there.

Sir Simon Case is not standing. He's probably taking time off at the Garrick Club.

 

[Machiavelli]

Some of us have been saying this for over a decade now, but here we go, confirmation that the Tory governments between 2010 and 2024 have been the worst in postwar history:

The Conservative Effect, 2010–2024

Cambridge Core - European Studies - The Conservative Effect, 2010–2024

www.cambridge.org

 

[Hugo Rune]

Another of Sunak’s inner circle being investigated for betting on the election date.

Sunak made millions betting against UK banks and the UK economy in the 2008 crash, I suppose his inner circle are just taking the lead from their boss?

 

[clapham_gull]

Another of Sunak’s inner circle being investigated for betting on the election date.

Sunak made millions betting against UK banks and the UK economy in the 2008 crash, I suppose his inner circle are just taking the lead from their boss?

To be far it's the MET.

I was gonna start a MET Meltdown thread, but it would be longer that the Tory one.

 

[Peteinblack]

Some of us have been saying this for over a decade now, but here we go, confirmation that the Tory governments between 2010 and 2024 have been the worst in postwar history:

The Conservative Effect, 2010–2024

Cambridge Core - European Studies - The Conservative Effect, 2010–2024

www.cambridge.org

And Anthony Seldon is basically an old-style One Nation Tory!

 

[Machiavelli]

More indictment of the past 14 years:

Labour is offering a credible plan to address Britain’s economic problems | Letter

Letter: Leading economists and policy experts believe the ambitious reforms proposed by Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves will help grow the economy

www.theguardian.com

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I’ve noted this recent trend of “Captains of Industry” telling everyone publicly which way they’re going to vote.

Am I alone in being slightly uncomfortable with it? I can’t precisely say why I’m uncomfortable with it, it just feels a bit “hey unwashed masses who I openly despise, I’m voting Labour, so it’s ok for you plebs to vote Labour too.”

The Tories were happy enough when the likes of Sean Connery, The Bee Gees, Cilla, Bob Monkhouse, the actor who played Ken Barlow, Rod Hull (and Emu), Jimmy Savile, Ronnie Biggs and 'Mad' Frankie Fraser provided their endorsements. What's good for the goose....

 

[Thunder Bolt]

For those who don’t know him, Sir Simon Case is the most senior civil servant and supposed to maintain standards and be apolitical.

He was appointed by Boris Johnson.

Now he is standing to become a Tory MP in a safe seat. It all smacks of the rotten boroughs of old.

Now, rather than face a hustings debate he has gone into hiding.

Prospective Tory MP turns down local hustings invite amid 'packed diary'

Sir Simon has been accused of 'arrogance' by a rival candidate over his decision not to attend

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Ah yes, the one who spent months on sick leave, on full pay when it was his turn to give evidence to the covid enquiry?
Yet, happy to stand for a party who want to reduce benefits for those on long term sick.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

There is a small but potential risk that a crushing Conservative defeat with a reasonable Reform vote could lead to the rise of Farage as leader of a future "New Conservative" type party merged with Reform.

So be careful what you wish for, as things can have unintended consequences.

Given the complete shambles of the Reform manifesto, anything giving Farage actual power would be catastrophic. The Truss fiasco would be miniscule in comparison.

 

[WATFORD zero]

There is a small but potential risk that a crushing Conservative defeat with a reasonable Reform vote could lead to the rise of Farage as leader of a future "New Conservative" type party merged with Reform.

So be careful what you wish for, as things can have unintended consequences.

Given the complete shambles of the Reform manifesto, anything giving Farage actual power would be catastrophic. The Truss fiasco would be miniscule in comparison.

But Shirley no one would be stupid enough to vote for Farage as PM ......

.... or that narcissistic, moronic liar Johnson to lead the country for 5 years

.... or to destroy the UK's economy by voting to Leave the EU ?

Oh F***, you've now got me worried

 

[clapham_gull]

There is a small but potential risk that a crushing Conservative defeat with a reasonable Reform vote could lead to the rise of Farage as leader of a future "New Conservative" type party merged with Reform.

So be careful what you wish for, as things can have unintended consequences.

Given the complete shambles of the Reform manifesto, anything giving Farage actual power would be catastrophic. The Truss fiasco would be miniscule in comparison.

He'll get found out like Johnson was.

Nothing to do with his politics, just the self serving interest and the British public (most of which aren't on Twitter) turn quite very quickly.

It's going to very interesting if he wins Clacton and gets real political exposure for the first time.