Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Well done and congratulations mate.
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This is really quite sad...
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Uncle Spielberg
Well-known member
It's great to hear about Worthingite and I am sure it give's everyone a boost.
sounds bloody good mate, good luck with it, and if you're ever stuck, we're normally desperate.......
Considering it's a sales role I'm not so sure you should look down on candidates asking for more money. They are perfectly entitled to negotiate - a skill which will be used frequently in the job they will be doing. Would you prefer a candidate that just blindly accepts what they are given? From experience those are not the type of candidates any organisation wants in a sales role. I accept that just saying 'I'm a graduate' should not give you a higher salary but don't think its fair to discount candidates purely on the basis they have asked for more money.
Going back to the original topic - The only advice I can give to jobseekers is never simply rely on advertised jobs. Networking is a massive avenue - friends, friends of friends, ex colleagues, Linkedin etc. Email/phone/badger them. Its estimated that between between 60-80% of jobs are not openly advertised. I've been unemployed and its a very hard place to be. The second bit of advice is that as hard as it gets, don't give up as you will get there eventually.
Going back to the original topic - The only advice I can give to jobseekers is never simply rely on advertised jobs. Networking is a massive avenue - friends, friends of friends, ex colleagues, Linkedin etc. Email/phone/badger them. Its estimated that between between 60-80% of jobs are not openly advertised. I've been unemployed and its a very hard place to be. The second bit of advice is that as hard as it gets, don't give up as you will get there eventually.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
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Yes saw that after I posted. Great minds think alike and all that!
Dandyman
In London village.
Not sure if your post was intended seriously or not but the current rates (from 1 October 2011) are:
£6.08 - the main rate for workers aged 21 and over
£4.98 - the 18-20 rate
£3.68 - the 16-17 rate for workers above school leaving age but under 18
£2.60 - the apprentice rate, for apprentices under 19 or 19 or over and in the first year of their apprenticeship
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
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I agree with you. But if all five of the best candidates have turned it down it tells you something about the market.
Can't pay below a living wage. And you can't employ children either. It's f***ing outragous.
BHAFC_Pandapops
Citation Needed
- Feb 16, 2011
- 2,844
it's all shit. people don't try nearly as hard as they claim, I'd agree. I have a job atm. Part time. Staying that way. Could go up to full time, but I won't. So I don't try. (Ask and I'll divulge that). Do not enjoy my job really one iota, can't live within my means, at all. But without it, I'd be stuffed.
Same here. Sounds like the company is offering a below market salary.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Having been employed all my life when at the age to work I feel very fortunate given the current state of the employment market.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
I left BT at the end of March 2003 after nearly 23 years in the job. I now earn 40% of what I used to but the money aspect doesn't bother me as long as I have enough to pay the bills every month.
BHAFC_Pandapops
Citation Needed
- Feb 16, 2011
- 2,844
You never see a polish man or woman out of work do you
ah but think of what my people have recently had to go through. Many of them who take jobs here have or had nothing. Not to mention the fact the Nazis robbed the country, as did the Cossacks.
they are a bunch who understand what work and commitment is. I fear a lot of this 'cant get a job' lark is when people have ridiculous boundaries about what they are willing to do to get their money. Start somewhere, or not at all.
I took voluntary redundancy from a large Construction company about a year ago now. It was a huge risk due to the state of the economy. I was fortunate enough to land a job working on the internal fit out of the Amex (which was a dream come true) and then moved onto a new build housing project. However, like many others I then struggled to find another freelance position from November. This was due partly to the time of year but also the fact that any position I was applying for had a huge number of candidates and recruiters always looked at my age.
So what did I do? I job created. I developed my business from providing Site and Project Management to Main Contractors and became a Main Contractor myself. It took about 4 weeks to get it up and running. I spend the majority of my 4 weeks doing all the little things like setting up trade accounts, designing logo's, stationary, vehicle writing, tax, cis, compiling lists of subcontractors, compiling lists of managing and letting agents, checkatrade....the list goes on. We started operating on the 2nd January.
If you think it's a business that can gain a market share and you have a realist business plan then my advice is go for it. However be prepared for it to take over your life. I easily work 6 days a week at the moment and do a minimum 12 hour days but in a short space of time we have secured maintenance contracts, private contracts and also been given the opportunity to tender jobs over £50k. When a client rings and says they want to proceed with the works it's a real buzz! It makes all the stress and hard work worth while.
I am like many of you on here, i've got a mortgage and bills to pay and I funded the business mainly from some equity in the business and a small business loan for set up costs. It won't be an overnight success, nor will you become rich in the short term but if you are motivated enough to take the risk , willing to work bloody hard and can take the knocks, the good times will outweigh the bad. Equally I know that some people would never want to risk becoming self employed and I hope they do find the position they are looking for.
So what did I do? I job created. I developed my business from providing Site and Project Management to Main Contractors and became a Main Contractor myself. It took about 4 weeks to get it up and running. I spend the majority of my 4 weeks doing all the little things like setting up trade accounts, designing logo's, stationary, vehicle writing, tax, cis, compiling lists of subcontractors, compiling lists of managing and letting agents, checkatrade....the list goes on. We started operating on the 2nd January.
If you think it's a business that can gain a market share and you have a realist business plan then my advice is go for it. However be prepared for it to take over your life. I easily work 6 days a week at the moment and do a minimum 12 hour days but in a short space of time we have secured maintenance contracts, private contracts and also been given the opportunity to tender jobs over £50k. When a client rings and says they want to proceed with the works it's a real buzz! It makes all the stress and hard work worth while.
I am like many of you on here, i've got a mortgage and bills to pay and I funded the business mainly from some equity in the business and a small business loan for set up costs. It won't be an overnight success, nor will you become rich in the short term but if you are motivated enough to take the risk , willing to work bloody hard and can take the knocks, the good times will outweigh the bad. Equally I know that some people would never want to risk becoming self employed and I hope they do find the position they are looking for.
redneb
Active member
Nah mate. Jobs day is Friday and there were 673 jobs in there today.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
Well-known member
Oh, the irony of being sat at a work computer reading this thread.
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
Its called earning an living, or paying your way rather than being entitled.
- Jul 10, 2003
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