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This is just classic



Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
24,331
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Should really look at only offering benefits up to 2 children , any more and you have to provide

http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1206846.0.its_not_fair.php


It's not fair!

A 26-year-old mother with five children - all under the age of five - has complained that the system through which she receives £501-a-week in state benefits is unfair.

Anna Taylor, from Trehane Road, Camborne, has not worked for five years, after being diagnosed with depression when she gave birth to her first child, Molly. She has also suffered from arthritis since the age of three.

Her 48-year-old husband, Alan - who she began an affair with nine months after getting married to her first husband - is also unemployed, after leaving work three years ago to look after her when she suffered post-natal depression.

Between them they receive £501 in benefits: £179 child tax credit, £64 child benefit, £90 job seeker's allowance, £126 housing benefit, £24 discretionary housing payment and £18 council tax. In addition, they receive free school meals and free milk - of which the family consumes around eight pints every day.

Mrs Taylor has now been told that, as she is receiving job seeker's allowance, she must look for work.

However, she claims that by doing so she would be financially disadvantaged and is adamant that she has "no intention" of ever going back to work while this is the case. Mrs Taylor told the Packet: "It's just crazy - the world's gone mad. What's the point of going to slave your guts out for 40 hours and what do you get for it? Absolutely nothing."
She claims that if she worked 40 hours a week on a minimum wage she would receive £530 in benefits, but would then have to pay out £167 a week on rent, council tax and meals - leaving her £138 worse off than if she was not working. Even if she worked for 16 hours a week, she would receive £501 a week in benefits, but have to pay out £89 of that - leaving her £89 worse off.

"It just feels you're being victimised for wanting to go back to work. They're trying to force you in to work to be worse off than your are now," she added.

Mrs Taylor said that having five children under the age of five created additional problems. The two eldest children, five-year-old Molly and four-year-old Thomas, attend St Meriadoc Primary School in Camborne and three-year-old Harry attends a Camborne nursery, but the two youngest children, Charlie and Amber, are still at home.

If both her and her husband worked, it would mean they would have to pay for childcare - creating further financial strain.

"My kids are the most important thing in my life. Why should I make my children suffer? They're the ones that will suffer, at the end of the day," she said.

Mrs Taylor said that both she and her husband would like to go back to work - "because we have got five children it would nice to get a bit of individuality" - but that the current system was preventing her from doing so.

She has written to Tony Blair with her views and is also due to see Julia Goldsworthy, MP for Falmouth and Camborne, early next month.

Mrs Taylor and her husband met while working at a nursing home in Exmouth - he as a nurse and she as a care assistant. Mr Taylor had been married for 22 years and had three children, while she had married her husband just nine months previously, but they soon began a passionate affair and left their partners to move in together. They have now been together for seven years and married for three of them.

They moved from Exmouth to Burnley in Lancashire, then Okehampton in Devon and finally to Camborne, after being encouraged by friends who live in Truro.

Miss Goldsworthy described the current system, where it was seen to be safer and more economical to stay at home than go out to work, as "completely wrong."

She told the Packet yesterday: "We have to help create a system where we can support the most vulnerable, but where they're in a position where they want to go in to work for all the right reasons - financial and self-worth. It is completely wrong that these kind of perverse incentives are in place at the moment. How can we expect to encourage more people to go in to work when all the incentives mean it's better for them not to."
 




Publius Ovidius

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Jul 5, 2003
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stop her benefits if she is so against them.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 




Robot Chicken

Seriously?
Jul 5, 2003
13,154
Chicken World
She does actually have a point. If you lose out financially by going to work then where's the incentive to work. Either lower the amount given in benefits or increase the minimum wage.

Not an ideal solution either way...
 


CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
45,010
Downloaded Penguin said:
She does actually have a point. If you lose out financially by going to work then where's the incentive to work. Either lower the amount given in benefits or increase the minimum wage.

Not an ideal solution either way...

Or stop being such a lazy fat bitch?
 








Robot Chicken

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Or stop being such a lazy fat bitch?

My sister has three kids and has managed to get a part time job only because her husband earns enough to support them all. Even then she has to rely on her mother to babysit and collect the kids from school or nursery regularly.

If her mother wasn't able to help then my sister wouldn't be able to work.
 






CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,010
Downloaded Penguin said:
My sister has three kids and has managed to get a part time job only because her husband earns enough to support them all. Even then she has to rely on her mother to babysit and collect the kids from school or nursery regularly.

If her mother wasn't able to help then my sister wouldn't be able to work.

Fair enough. I just find a mother of 5 at 26 years old moaning about her benefits takes the piss a little, that's all.
 


Commander

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Fair enough. I just find a mother of 5 at 26 years old moaning about her benefits takes the piss a little, that's all.

a little?
 




Robot Chicken

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Jul 5, 2003
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Fair enough. I just find a mother of 5 at 26 years old moaning about her benefits takes the piss a little, that's all.

But she's NOT complaining about her benefits. She's complaining about the SYSTEM. The system that leaves her WORSE off if she goes to work.

She claims that if she worked 40 hours a week on a minimum wage she would receive £530 in benefits, but would then have to pay out £167 a week on rent, council tax and meals - leaving her £138 worse off than if she was not working. Even if she worked for 16 hours a week, she would receive £501 a week in benefits, but have to pay out £89 of that - leaving her £89 worse off.

Mrs Taylor said that both she and her husband would like to go back to work - "because we have got five children it would nice to get a bit of individuality" - but that the current system was preventing her from doing so.

And you know what, she does have a very valid point, regardless of the number of children she has.
 
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Chesney Christ said:
Its not lazyness, she couldn't live on what she would be being paid if she had to go out and work.

Sorry but as a died in the wool liberal that is bollocks. They can quite easily live on the oney they would earn from working, what they would not ba able to do is to live in the style to which they beleive they are entitled.
So the fags may have to go if they smoke. The beer would have to be cut down if they drink. Do they have a car? Is it absolutely vital. Bet they've got a 48 inch plasma screen digital tv and the kids have their ps3's and the like.

Their lifestyle would change if they had to work for a living, tough f***ing shit. So has mine.
 




Oli

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Feb 27, 2007
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Downloaded Penguin said:
But she's NOT complaining about her benefits. She's complaining about the SYSTEM. The system that leaves her WORSE off if she goes to work.





And you know what, she does have a very valid point, regardless of the number of children she has.

She does have a very valid point, but if she hadn't had five kids that she cant afford to support, then there wouldn't be a problem.
 


Robot Chicken

Seriously?
Jul 5, 2003
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
She's almost definitely FAT though.

Not that fat...

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Anna Taylor with her five children (from the left) Thomas, Charlie, Amber, Molly and Harry
 




Robot Chicken

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Jul 5, 2003
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Oli said:
She does have a very valid point, but if she hadn't had five kids that she cant afford to support, then there wouldn't be a problem.

Her whole argument is based on her getting a minimum wage job. Obviously she wouldn't have much choice but if she got a better paid job this wouldn't be a problem.
 






She's a f***ing qualified nurse. So is he. They met whilst working together. Read the comments in the article. And she sold her story to the daily mirror last year for more money. Spends 15 per week on a mobile phone and 45 per week on car that they don't need as neither of them work.

He gave up work to look after her when she had pnd, she now says she doesn't have pnd anymore so her lazy **** of a husband can go back to being a nurse.

They've got used to a lifestyle and don't want to change it so they refuse to work. Bollocks to her and her brood.

edit - sorry He's the nurse, shes a care assistant.
 
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