Theresa May BLAH BLAH BLAH!!

[DerbyGull]

Same old rhetoric from an old stiff.

"Violence all down to students", nothing to do with police tactics then?

One sided BS, no solidarity in this country from the 'false consciousness' masses. One group of society protests (in this case students) and they're vilified with talk like, 'why should we pay for students' etc etc.

The fact is the country needs skilled people from universities, accountants, doctors, social scientists, scientists, engineers, lawyers etc etc. So why penalise them?

People will be put off by these fees so where to they get the shortfall in skills from?

From abroad! Then the old 'immigration' hot potato rears it's ugly head!

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

So the police should have let the anarchists storm Parliament should they? Or go on (more) of a rampage throwing stuff off buildings?

When will people understand that students won't pay a penny upfront. Anyone graduating and getting into one of those professions will pay back money once they earn enough. I thought those on the left were in favour of the rich paying more into the state?

 

[fruitnveg]

Same old rhetoric from an old stiff.

"Violence all down to students", nothing to do with police tactics then?

One sided BS, no solidarity in this country from the 'false consciousness' masses. One group of society protests (in this case students) and they're vilified with talk like, 'why should we pay for students' etc etc.

The fact is the country needs skilled people from universities, accountants, doctors, social scientists, scientists, engineers, lawyers etc etc. So why penalise them?

People will be put off by these fees so where to they get the shortfall in skills from?

From abroad! Then the old 'immigration' hot potato rears it's ugly head!

I know this is a bit radical, but you could try, prehaps, looking at the bigger picture? No?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Same old rhetoric from an old stiff.

"Violence all down to students", nothing to do with police tactics then?

One sided BS, no solidarity in this country from the 'false consciousness' masses. One group of society protests (in this case students) and they're vilified with talk like, 'why should we pay for students' etc etc.

The fact is the country needs skilled people from universities, accountants, doctors, social scientists, scientists, engineers, lawyers etc etc. So why penalise them?

People will be put off by these fees so where to they get the shortfall in skills from?

From abroad! Then the old 'immigration' hot potato rears it's ugly head!

 

[Don Quixote]

More importantly, would you?

 

[sten_super]

"Violence all down to students", nothing to do with police tactics then?

Yeah, you're right, those police are violent thugs.

 

[clippedgull]

The fact is the country needs skilled people from universities, accountants, doctors, social scientists, scientists, engineers, lawyers etc etc. So why penalise them?

Penalise? Is it not true that University graduates can move into highly paid jobs. If so why should minimum wage taxpayers (as an example) have to subsidise their education? I read somewhere that an 'average graduate' earns £400,000 more than an ordinary worker over a lifetime of employment.

 

[Biscuit]

Same old rhetoric from an old stiff.

"Violence all down to students", nothing to do with police tactics then?

One sided BS, no solidarity in this country from the 'false consciousness' masses. One group of society protests (in this case students) and they're vilified with talk like, 'why should we pay for students' etc etc.

The fact is the country needs skilled people from universities, accountants, doctors, social scientists, scientists, engineers, lawyers etc etc. So why penalise them?

People will be put off by these fees so where to they get the shortfall in skills from?

From abroad! Then the old 'immigration' hot potato rears it's ugly head!

You are 100% right and it's YOU that is looking at the bigger picture.

The fact so many people think what the papers tell them to think is so disappointing. How many people are against them just because of party politics rather than the facts? How many people vilify them just for standing up for what they believe in? They have an excellent cause which is just being shrugged off by those unable to look at things objectively.

 

[DerbyGull]

All these words used to describe students are hilarious, 'Thugs, ferals, yobs, monsters, etc'. So they decide to have a day off from all that boring study and go a bit mental, so what they're just kids having fun and a bit pissed off about having to spend they're whole working life to pay off this debt.

Now they're talking about using water canons on them. Worlds gone mad.

 

[Uncle C]

The fact is the country needs skilled people from universities, accountants, doctors, social scientists, scientists, engineers, lawyers etc etc. So why penalise them?

This arguement is utter bollocks.
50 years ago less than a quarter the number of todays teenagers went to University and there was no shortage of these skills.

 

[KneeOn]

Yeah, you're right, those police are violent thugs.

Mmmmm 4 images that are designed to shock and put forward the idea we're all mindless. Yes.
Mmmmm 4 images that show how angry students are and that we've been disregarded. Yes.
Mmmmm 4 images that are of "apathetic" students who show no interest in politics. Yes.
Mmmmm 4 images that show the result of a group being shat on and betrayed by our democracy. Yes.

I can't decide which one fits.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Same old rhetoric from an old stiff.

"Violence all down to students", nothing to do with police tactics then?

One sided BS, no solidarity in this country from the 'false consciousness' masses. One group of society protests (in this case students) and they're vilified with talk like, 'why should we pay for students' etc etc.

The fact is the country needs skilled people from universities, accountants, doctors, social scientists, scientists, engineers, lawyers etc etc. So why penalise them?

People will be put off by these fees so where to they get the shortfall in skills from?

From abroad! Then the old 'immigration' hot potato rears it's ugly head!

a) We can't afford it.
b) We don't need people going to university to learn "Beauty therapy"

end of.

 

[DerbyGull]

Yeah, you're right, those police are violent thugs.

Lighten up, boys will be boys.

 

[DerbyGull]

Penalise? Is it not true that University graduates can move into highly paid jobs. If so why should minimum wage taxpayers (as an example) have to subsidise their education? I read somewhere that an 'average graduate' earns £400,000 more than an ordinary worker over a lifetime of employment.

So that's a large percentage of that £400,000 going into the tax purse, which everybody benefits from.

 

[sten_super]

Lighten up, boys will be boys.

I've no idea if this is meant to be a comedy response or not. I really hope so.

For those defending the students, I've got a quick activity for you. Shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes.

Go to Google
Press the images tab
Type in 'Tuition fees march london' and look at the first ten or so pages of images
Type in 'Stop the war march london' and look at the first ten or so pages of images
Compare and contrast

 

[Biscuit]

This arguement is utter bollocks.
50 years ago less than a quarter the number of todays teenagers went to University and there was no shortage of these skills.

That argument is utter bollocks.
The country works completely differently to how it did 50 years ago. Completely.

 

[Westdene Wonder]

Thats the whole point they are not JUST standing up for what they believe in, they are ignoring police instructions and attacking them and their horses and causing criminal damage,its pleasing that the government are taking steps to arrest those responsible,it will make them think twice in future demonstrations as a prison sentence will not improve their chances of employment.
Theresa May has gone up in my estimations as she is considering water cannons she might take up the suggestion of a caller on radio this morning of using Farmyard slurry rather than clean water.
Tasers are being used regularly now on drunks so they must also be available for voilent behaviour on demonstrations,it would help the students if they tightened up their control on who takes part, this could be achieved by them using official name tags
to keep out the rabble, and deter the wilder elements of their membership.

 

[KneeOn]

This arguement is utter bollocks.
50 years ago less than a quarter the number of todays teenagers went to University and there was no shortage of these skills.

Blah blah blah less than 50 years ago there were no where near the amount of high tech industries, the number of citizens were less so obviously there are going to be less and back then there were ways around not going to uni where as now with the crisis, and the UK's aging population we've got a short fall of jobs so its Uni or you're going to be unemployed for quite a while.

 

[Biscuit]

Blah blah blah less than 50 years ago there were no where near the amount of high tech industries, the number of citizens were less so obviously there are going to be less and back then there were ways around not going to uni where as now with the crisis, and the UK's aging population we've got a short fall of jobs so its Uni or you're going to be unemployed for quite a while.

Don't bother. Anyone stupid enough to use that arguement is clearly too stupid to waste time on!

 

[DerbyGull]

a) We can't afford it.

Who's WE?

Can the tax evaders of £25 billion a year afford it? Or the Bankers who laughed all the way to the bank?

Even a fraction of that £25bn could:

1. Pay for school sport;

2. Provide free university education;

3. Ensure the sure start programme was properly funded.

That’s three ways of increasing equality, access to education, well being and economic growth in society.

Look up my friends, not down on the little guys (in this case students). It's the FEW greedy fat cats spoilingit for the MANY little guys. The people in power like to give you a scapegoat (this time students) so your TOO BUSY looking at the little guy, while the GREEDY FAT CATS make off with YOUR taxes.