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There is ONLY one way to improve catering standards at the AMEX.



Lewes Seagull

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Jan 23, 2010
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It would also help if there was somewhere separate to get a tea or coffee at half time. Queuing up with all the pie and pint bellies makes it impossible.
 




jmsc

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Jul 19, 2003
647
Old Shoreham Road :o(
I think Dark Star have wised up to the fact that real ale in a football ground simply doesn't work and they want to protect their brand.

It makes sense for Harveys to be there are they don't have a reputation to protect.

Partly true and partly not!

Dark Star don't want to go down the Harveys route, they deliver 18 gallon cask conditioned barrels to
the stadium and the catering staff re-rack into 9 gallon casks as bright beer.

Dark Star have ordered some new special barrels so that the Hophead can be served from casks filled
by them and sold in a condition that they want.

It also must be noted that 900 gallons of Harveys were sold at the Donny game, being a smaller brewery,
Dark Star couln't even supply 450 gallons/match.
 
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Arthur

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Jul 8, 2003
8,705
Buxted Harbour
Dark Star have ordered some new special barrels so that the Hophead can be served from casks filled
by them and sold in a condition that they want.

How can they do that? Have you seen the berks that are serving it up!?! I've witnessed one spotty oik taking to a cask with a mallet like it was a test your strength machine at the fun fair!!

It also must be noted that 900 gallons of Harveys were sold at the Donny game, being a smaller brewery,
Dark Star couln't even supply 450 gallons/match.

Any idea how many gallons were sold on Friday? Seemed to be allot of people on lager which I can only assume people have wised up to the fact that it's russian roulette when it comes to the Harveys. It'll either be shockingly bad or fine. I've had too many instances of the former so give it a wide birth now.
 


bristolseagull

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Jul 5, 2003
5,554
Lindfield
Or a Mars bar and a programme from the newsagent who used to be just across from the Goldstone Ground, and a decent hot dog from the van on the corner of Newtown Road (I think it was called that).

You're getting close to the problem there. If the club were to allow independant food outlets to trade outside the ground it would ease the pre-match burden on the internal outlets thereby reducing the volume of people eating in the ground the length of queue.
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
You're getting close to the problem there. If the club were to allow independant food outlets to trade outside the ground it would ease the pre-match burden on the internal outlets thereby reducing the volume of people eating in the ground the length of queue.

I got a bus to the amex for the first time on friday, and crossed the trai station bridge and noticed there are a couple in the train station car park area.
 




Storer 68

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Apr 19, 2011
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Its poor at half time and anything out of the norm seems to set them back 5 mins, but the people suffering the most are azure and the club who must be losing lots of sales and revenue by not turning the queue fast enough.

But you've only got 15 minutes.

It must be a challenge for anyone to get to the kiosk, get served, consume a pie and/or a pint and get back to your seat in 15 minutes..........
 


Storer 68

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Apr 19, 2011
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You're getting close to the problem there. If the club were to allow independant food outlets to trade outside the ground it would ease the pre-match burden on the internal outlets thereby reducing the volume of people eating in the ground the length of queue.

ah yes , reminds me of watching a burger seller outside the GG drop about two dozen burgers on the pavement whilst he was cooking them. He picked them up off the pavement, gave them a bit a shake, turned them over and threw them back on the hotplate.

he sold the lot about ten minutes later in bread rolls to fat blokes staggering out of the hove park tavern.........
 


Acker79

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ah yes , reminds me of watching a burger seller outside the GG drop about two dozen burgers on the pavement whilst he was cooking them. He picked them up off the pavement, gave them a bit a shake, turned them over and threw them back on the hotplate.

he sold the lot about ten minutes later in bread rolls to fat blokes staggering out of the hove park tavern.........

Can't do that these dys. It's health and safety gone mad, I say!
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
71,878
You're getting close to the problem there. If the club were to allow independant food outlets to trade outside the ground it would ease the pre-match burden on the internal outlets thereby reducing the volume of people eating in the ground the length of queue.

Good call. They could provide the noodles and the Thai curries that seem to have gone AWOL. Oh, and chips. Lots and lots of chips.
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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But you've only got 15 minutes.

It must be a challenge for anyone to get to the kiosk, get served, consume a pie and/or a pint and get back to your seat in 15 minutes..........

You're being very, very fair to them. This is not a cordon-bleu, fine-dining outfit - it's stadium catering. This is what they do, it's their specialism (supposedly), food and drink before, after, and during a short half-time interval in a slick manner.

Agree with concession vans outside, plenty of space for it at the fringe of the tarmac, would relieve the pressure, club and caterer still get a cut.
 


Ken Newbury

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Feb 6, 2006
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1/2 mile from LDC country
Dark Star don't want to go down the Harveys route, they deliver 18 gallon cask conditioned barrels to
the stadium and the catering staff re-rack into 9 gallon casks as bright beer.

The Harveys they serve out of the kiosks in WSU are not served bright, they are without doubt served as Cask conditioned judging by the two ocasions the end of the barrel produced at least 4 pints of cloudy beer with sediment in it; true bright beer wouldn't have any of that!
 




trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
10,841
Hove
Maybe your expectations are high? it is a football ground, I have been going to football stadiums for more years than i care to remember, and not once can i think of a good food / drink experience, and I have been to most of the best stadiums........its football..........food / drink = not the best........but it's the individuals choice to buy or not to buy.........(I do appreciate the concerns though) :)

Obviously, there are a couple of different groups on here. People complaining about the standards/service in the stands and others unhappy with the 1901 club catering. I'm in the latter camp - it's not even close to what was promised. In the stands, I have to say I wouldn't bother with a half-time beer as I'd never expect to get one at any ground in time. The other stuff I can't really pass comment on as I've only experienced it at the SSCF.

However, there are two things about saying people can just choose not to buy. First, it's a huge missed opportunity as the stadium is excellent in so many ways. It's a shame the caterers are not up to the same standard.

Secondly, it's always been the intention that the stadium catering would be attractive enough to tempt substantial numbers of fans to arrive early and/or leave late, therefore easing the pressure on the transport links. If more and more people opt to drink in town and try to pile to the ground at the last minute, then the complaints about trains and buses aren't likely to die down any time soon. Which in turn has serious consequences for the stadium expansion that I think most fans would love to see.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Secondly, it's always been the intention that the stadium catering would be attractive enough to tempt substantial numbers of fans to arrive early and/or leave late, therefore easing the pressure on the transport links. If more and more people opt to drink in town and try to pile to the ground at the last minute, then the complaints about trains and buses aren't likely to die down any time soon. Which in turn has serious consequences for the stadium expansion that I think most fans would love to see.

IMHO the volume of transport complaints are a reflection of the abnormally high number of evening games currently being played at the stadium. For these, large number of people have to rush to the ground straight after work and need to get home at a reasonable time after the game. Things have to run smoothly. Not such a big issue for Saturday games (remember THOSE?)
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
10,841
Hove
IMHO the volume of transport complaints are a reflection of the abnormally high number of evening games currently being played at the stadium. For these, large number of people have to rush to the ground straight after work and need to get home at a reasonable time after the game. Things have to run smoothly. Not such a big issue for Saturday games (remember THOSE?)

I'd agree with that. No complaints about transport myself but I always intended to get to the ground 45-60 minutes before kickoff and hang about for a beer after. Obviously it's more difficult for people who don't live in Brighton or Hove but if they can get into town, there are plenty of options.
 




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