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Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,706
Almería
In my quest to get inside the mind of the Dingo, I stumbled upon this article https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=13968 It seems to touch on some of the ideas @Crawley Dingo has tried to express and the author also likes the word immutable. Does this piece chime with your views, Mr Dingo?

It overdid it with the hyperbole imo. This was a more interesting read https://www.cieo.org.uk/research/how-woke-conquered-the-world/ though she also over-eggs the pudding somewhat. I get the impression our antipodean canine friend may be a fan of Joanna Williams.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
25,576
West is BEST
In my quest to get inside the mind of the Dingo, I stumbled upon this article https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=13968 It seems to touch on some of the ideas @Crawley Dingo has tried to express and the author also likes the word immutable. Does this piece chime with your views, Mr Dingo?

It overdid it with the hyperbole imo. This was a more interesting read https://www.cieo.org.uk/research/how-woke-conquered-the-world/ though she also over-eggs the pudding somewhat. I get the impression our antipodean canine friend may be a fan of Joanna Williams.
I was wondering where he was cutting and pasting his horse shit from.
 


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,460
Fiveways
Social mobility never existed in Britain - it was an illusion created to give the semblance that people's lives could improve. The improvements that did take place were not because of 'social mobility' but because the trade union movement fought tooth and nail for any and every improvement in wages and conditions.
It absolutely did. It only lasted for a relatively brief period, but I think you'll find that not only was there social mobility in the UK between 1945 and 1979, but inequality decreased too. It's the only time both of those things have happened. Maybe we could all reflect on that.
 




Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,259
In my quest to get inside the mind of the Dingo, I stumbled upon this article https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=13968 It seems to touch on some of the ideas @Crawley Dingo has tried to express and the author also likes the word immutable. Does this piece chime with your views, Mr Dingo?

It overdid it with the hyperbole imo. This was a more interesting read https://www.cieo.org.uk/research/how-woke-conquered-the-world/ though she also over-eggs the pudding somewhat. I get the impression our antipodean canine friend may be a fan of Joanna Williams.
Those articles should be prescribed for insomnia. They could even put glass eyes to sleep.
 




Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,706
Almería
It absolutely did. It only lasted for a relatively brief period, but I think you'll find that not only was there social mobility in the UK between 1945 and 1979, but inequality decreased too. It's the only time both of those things have happened. Maybe we could all reflect on that.

Same for the USA and we know what happened next in both countries.
 




BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,905
It absolutely did. It only lasted for a relatively brief period, but I think you'll find that not only was there social mobility in the UK between 1945 and 1979, but inequality decreased too. It's the only time both of those things have happened. Maybe we could all reflect on that.
Yeah well no-one wants any of that socialism nonsense!
 




Mr Bridger

Sound of the suburbs
Feb 25, 2013
4,692
Earth
I’ll just tag this onto the woke thread rather than start another binfest thread about the snowflake brigade.

 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,664
I’ll just tag this onto the woke thread rather than start another binfest thread about the snowflake brigade.


I remember seeing that and instantly thinking it was staged. As so many of these type of videos are...
 




Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
868
Social mobility never existed in Britain - it was an illusion created to give the semblance that people's lives could improve. The improvements that did take place were not because of 'social mobility' but because the trade union movement fought tooth and nail for any and every improvement in wages and conditions.

Social mobility existed up until around 2000. Yes peoples lives did improve, they have got easier due to technology and its falling cost.
 




Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
868
So in your view ideas can be labelled woke but not people?

Trump could be accused of holding fascistic ideas but not of being a fascist himself?

And to be clear, wokeism destroys meritocracy but meritocracy is a flawed ideology?

Lastly, the judging and rewarding of which "immutable characteristics" would lead to the UK becoming a kleptocracy?

No,Yes, Yes yes, Race, sex and sexuality.
 




Super Steve Earle

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
8,805
North of Brighton
Social mobility never existed in Britain - it was an illusion created to give the semblance that people's lives could improve. The improvements that did take place were not because of 'social mobility' but because the trade union movement fought tooth and nail for any and every improvement in wages and conditions.
I always thought grammar schools were a driver for social mobility. Obviously the Labour Party thought differently in the 60's though.
 






Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
868
In my quest to get inside the mind of the Dingo, I stumbled upon this article https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=13968 It seems to touch on some of the ideas @Crawley Dingo has tried to express and the author also likes the word immutable. Does this piece chime with your views, Mr Dingo?

It overdid it with the hyperbole imo. This was a more interesting read https://www.cieo.org.uk/research/how-woke-conquered-the-world/ though she also over-eggs the pudding somewhat. I get the impression our antipodean canine friend may be a fan of Joanna Williams.

I read most of the first article and its correct although a bit tangent in parts to my view.(I will come back to read the other thamkks)

I come here for football and maybe drop a few political posts. I neither want or have the time to chew that for days on certain issues, especially ones I am not directly interested in.

Not being rude here mate but wind it up soon K?
 




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