The great Vicente saga - 2012 edition [All quite exciting in the end]

[The Peanut Roaster]

I think we should forget about him now and base the team and play around Ashley Barnes

So carry on as normal then.

 

[El Presidente]

Why? Think Gus should keep to his word and build it round CMS as that's what he said to sign him.

Whoooosh!

 

[HenryC]

Read this:

Poyet urges Vicente to return From The Argus)

 

[HenryC]

And this:

Poyet: Vicente should return | Brighton Football Club News, Results, Fixtures | Sporting Life

 

[Jim in the West]

Just reading the latest article on Marca. Basically it says that Elche aren't able to pay a transfer fee for Vicente, but Marca also reports that Vicente's agent had positive talks with David Burke a couple of days ago, and that Brighton would "soon open the door" to Vicente (presumably this means we'll let him go).....(not sure why David Burke is involved, as I would have assumed this is being dealt with by Paul Barber??) The article also implies that Poyet verbally told Vicente that we wouldn't force him to honour his contract, but we then changed our mind at the last moment (supposedly in order to extract money for a transfer fee).

Sounds like there is a lot of haggling going on in the background....likely outcome, as far as I can see, is that Elche coughs up some dosh and a deal is done, or perhaps Vicente comes back for a season and Elche just have to wait. The first of these would seem more probable.

As with most posts on this thread, I don't think this adds a huge amount!!

 

[Willy Dangle]

I cant believe I am still reading this thread let alone putting my opinion to it.

Still I predict:

He will remain in Spain and we thank him very much and wish him all the best. You will never find out if a fee is paid or not, you will all be left guessing and speculating for ever and ever as will I.

 

[Ernest]

I cant believe I am still reading this thread let alone putting my opinion to it.

Still I predict:

He will remain in Spain and we thank him very much and wish him all the best. You will never find out if a fee is paid or not, you will all be left guessing and speculating for ever and ever as will I.

Think you're right and probably announced in conjunction with a new signing

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Just reading the latest article on Marca. Basically it says that Elche aren't able to pay a transfer fee for Vicente, but Marca also reports that Vicente's agent had positive talks with David Burke a couple of days ago, and that Brighton would "soon open the door" to Vicente (presumably this means we'll let him go).....(not sure why David Burke is involved, as I would have assumed this is being dealt with by Paul Barber??) The article also implies that Poyet verbally told Vicente that we wouldn't force him to honour his contract, but we then changed our mind at the last moment (supposedly in order to extract money for a transfer fee).

Sounds like there is a lot of haggling going on in the background....likely outcome, as far as I can see, is that Elche coughs up some dosh and a deal is done, or perhaps Vicente comes back for a season and Elche just have to wait. The first of these would seem more probable.

As with most posts on this thread, I don't think this adds a huge amount!!

Jim - who is this Burke ?

 

[Jim in the West]

Jim - who is this Burke ?

I had to check - apparently "Head of Football Operations", or similar.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I had to check - apparently "Head of Football Operations", or similar.

I think he's the one who does the contract negotiations whereas the new chap is CEO over the whole business. If I remember rightly Burke is the one we got from Southampton.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Jim - who is this Burke ?

 

[brightonrock]

I think he's the one who does the contract negotiations whereas the new chap is CEO over the whole business. If I remember rightly Burke is the one we got from Southampton.

Correct. Think of it as Barber being the money-generating man and Burke being the spender.

 

[Surf's Up]

This is all so stupid - it's like being suddenly dumped by the woman (or man) that you thought you were going to spend the rest of your life with or the death of a loved one. We're all going through the bereavement curve which always starts with incomprehension and denial, and then anger, depression and finally acceptance. We need to get out the other side of this asap cos getting stuck in one of these phases is simply NOT AN OPTION!!!

 

[peterward]

And this:

Poyet: Vicente should return | Brighton Football Club News, Results, Fixtures | Sporting Life

there's a bloke who is enjoying the beautiful english climate

 

[Bladders]

the player's agent Victor Onate claims he will not return until his differences with the club have been settled.

Says to me that he wants a better deal from us

Where Poyet says The only thing we know is he didn't turn up and is showing willingness to leave.

So which is it? Why would he even need to come back if he wants to leave? Clean his locker out?

 

[rocker959]

As brilliant as he is and having the potential to become a God like Wardy still is , he is no good here with a miserable fizzog on and wishing to be elsewhere , no matter the reception he had here from the fans and the help from the club with his fitness etc etc we are not in his blood sadly. He has proven to be loyal in his career to his hometown club so that is not the issue, Perhaps he should read a Spanish translation of Build a Bonfire to aid his decision and show the reasons behind our fans passion and appreciation of anything special we have !! That would probably have no effect either.His family etc etc and of course his deal will no doubt sway him to his homeland. Sadly another Albion love affair ends and there have been plenty over the years though this one was so powerful over such a short period, shame.

 

[severnside gull]

Twitter report that Elche are offering him a two year deal at 00K a year so they can't be that broke they can't afford a fee?

 

[Bladders]

Twitter report that Elche are offering him a two year deal at 00K a year so they can't be that broke they can't afford a fee?

Nothing a year? They're trying it on a bit

 

[severnside gull]

Nothing a year? They're trying it on a bit

Ha ha! Friggin' keyboard!

300,000 euros = £240K a year give or take - it ain't a fat lot relatively speaking so he's either looking for sunshine and family close by or waiting for a stronger deal from us

 

[Bob!]

Why would he even need to come back if he wants to leave?

He's got to cancel the next 3 terms at the nursery for his kiddie, surely!