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The Coventry Smoke Bomb







the reason that they are carried in Lewes and other bonfire celebrations is that (because letting rookies off in the street is illegal) that the Police recording the parades on the digital camcorders to see people letting off rookies, and the flare completely screws the light sensors in the camera for a few minutes. Also this is the reason that there is a Hooligan stigma associated with Flares.
Eh?

The reason is much simpler than that. They look good.

The reason the police don't arrest folk letting off rookies in the streets of Lewes is equally simple and has nothing to do with the evidence not being available on camera. It's impossible to arrest THOUSANDS of people. Where would you put them?
 




stupendor

Active member
Feb 21, 2010
110
I don't think the Bradford fans would agree with you.............

Maybe not, but that fire was caused by a cigarette that fell through a gap in an old wooden stand that had loads of old litter underneath it.....

Flares are designed to be used in a very confined space (lifeboat) that hold 30 - 150 people for the purpose of attracting attention. As stated before, perfectly safe.... Used properly.
 






Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,273
the reason that they are carried in Lewes and other bonfire celebrations is that (because letting rookies off in the street is illegal) that the Police recording the parades on the digital camcorders to see people letting off rookies, and the flare completely screws the light sensors in the camera for a few minutes. Also this is the reason that there is a Hooligan stigma associated with Flares.

What a load of rubbish.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,273
Maybe not, but that fire was caused by a cigarette that fell through a gap in an old wooden stand that had loads of old litter underneath it.....

Flares are designed to be used in a very confined space (lifeboat) that hold 30 - 150 people for the purpose of attracting attention. As stated before, perfectly safe.... Used properly.

But would Flares + beer = safe use ???

What if someone nearby got injured, who pays compensation, the individual using the flare or the club? (if its unallocated seating how would they find out who the individual was)

Also, are there still any older style grounds where there could be a risk of fire from a discarded flare? (there must still be some residual heat from it)
 


Bean

Registered User
Feb 13, 2010
3,557
Hove
I love flares, I wish more fans used them as it generates a better atmosphere.
 




Direct Dave

New member
Oct 26, 2011
91
Unfortunately for the flare fans out there, their illegal in the UK.

Public Order Act 1986

1986 CHAPTER 64
Fireworks etc.

3The following shall be inserted after section 2 (offences in connection with alcohol, containers etc. at sports grounds)—
“2A Fireworks etc.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he has an article or substance to which this section applies in his possession—

(a)at any time during the period of a designated sporting event when he is in any area of a designated sports ground from which the event may be directly viewed, or

(b)while entering or trying to enter a designated sports ground at any time during the period of a designated sporting event at the ground.

(2)It is a defence for the accused to prove that he had possession with lawful authority.

(3)This section applies to any article or substance whose main purpose is the emission of a flare for purposes of illuminating or signalling (as opposed to igniting or heating) or the emission of smoke or a visible gas; and in particular it applies to distress flares, fog signals, and pellets and capsules intended to be used as fumigators or for testing pipes, but not to matches, cigarette lighters or heaters.

(4)This section also applies to any article which is a firework.”
 








Twinkle Toes

Growing old disgracefully
Apr 4, 2008
11,138
Hoveside
Bloody heck - I haven't seen explosions like that in Belgrade since NATO 'planes bombed it! :ohmy:

Abslutely MENTAL scenes.
 


The Grockle

Formally Croydon Seagull
Sep 26, 2008
5,739
Dorset
It would look quality if someone launched one of those rocket flares with a parachite over the amex on a night match, i saw one launched on fireworks night at boxhill once, looked amazing and stayed in the air for quite a few minutes.

I don't think you can deny they incredibly dangerous though, even in a sensible hand they could cause horrific burns.
 








Lady Whistledown

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
47,499
Great searching by the stewards at that game :lol:
 




Bigbelly

Banned
Sep 24, 2011
1,930
Are they? (genuine question)

Yes they are safe. Millions are sold worldwide for safety reasons like scuba diving and ships. no deaths reported. The only death reported was that nutter who let of a rocket propelled flair at the Wales - Scotland match, now that is f***ing dumb as it travels at x amount of speed and can travel hundreds or yards.

Hand held flares are just as dangerous as youngsters holding sprinklers on firework night but millions of parents allow it every year so what's the difference?
 




Bigbelly

Banned
Sep 24, 2011
1,930
I don't get why they are banned. Is it because the FA thinks straight away that a flare = hooliganism?

Banned because some nut let of a rocket flare between Wales - Scotland match which a fan died, it travelled something like 400 yards and caught him in the face. Hand held flares are safe.
 


Bigbelly

Banned
Sep 24, 2011
1,930
Flares are a bit more dangerous but those smoke bombs are harmless.


Why are they more Dangerous? You allow your daughter/ Son to hold sprinklers, More children have been injured using sprinklers ( fire work night) than any other firework, why aren't they banned?
 


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