[Albion] Special Buses: Negotiations Ongoing with Alternative Bus Co + "supporter contributiion"

[seagullsovergrimsby]

I have some lengthy comments from Paul Barber which will be on my website in the next half hour for anyone interested... Been in dialogue with him regarding these issues since yesterday evening.

I look forward to reading your blog on this issue.

 

[Husty]

Thank you. Appreciated. Can I run a sweep on how many times he mentions FFP?

Every other sentence on average.

As mentioned above, it'll be a much greater loss in income if people stop attending.

 

[Beach Hut]

So some are now thinking legal action and not lambasted like I was over the initial travel tax being enforced - expect the other subsidy to rocket next season to around £100 plus

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Thank you. Appreciated. Can I run a sweep on how many times he mentions FFP?

14 as Walt says there are some lengthy comments.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

I can confirm FFP features a few times...

 

[Sergei's Celebration]

I go for 7 times in the text.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Well the travel scheme isnt used by the staff or players - thats what I was referring to by the Million pound loss.

I know that, but the loss is not just down to the travel. The travel plan was an integral part of the planning permission and to recoup some of the subsidy, there has been a levy. Clubs are making a loss because of over staffing and exorbitant player wages.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

So some are now thinking legal action and not lambasted like I was over the initial travel tax being enforced - expect the other subsidy to rocket next season to around £100 plus

My guess is that the transport levy will go up by £30 a season until the club is no longer subsidising the actual cost.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

I can confirm FFP features a few times...

Doesn't it always ?

 

[Chicken Runner61]

Exactly. Perhaps some players could offer to contribute done of their wages to address the FFP problems...

Walt - I agree with you wages could come down but after a bit of investigation it seems to be transfer fees and fees to agents that is making the English league teams lose money. In Germany clubs do not spend as much on players and it seems less transfers take place. Players earn as much there they get less TV money but season tickets cost 60-75% less!

One thing they do is to limit season tickets to supporters which obviously means more day tickets - we seem to be doing the opposite we want virtually all season tickets which means the clubs can treat you like crap once they have tied you up for a season

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I shall go for 20

 

[martyn20]

I know that, but the loss is not just down to the travel. The travel plan was an integral part of the planning permission and to recoup some of the subsidy, there has been a levy. Clubs are making a loss because of over staffing and exorbitant player wages.

The club do lose a lot of money paying the travel companies, this switch will not make the club any money at all, just slightly reduce the loss

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The club do lose a lot of money paying the travel companies, this switch will not make the club any money at all, just slightly reduce the loss

I realise that but you are missing the point.

 

[Ernest]

The club has lost the right to make everyone pay this tax now they've changed the rules. Simply make everyone pay the cost from P & R buses , car parks to train tickets then the club wouldn't be losing money. £4.75 for a one game travel ticket on top of the levy is just a rip off and for some it is the only way they can get to the AMEX

 

[Chicken Runner61]

If FFP is such a problem then I suspect the Amex must be costing an absolute fortune to run because with 4 x the crowds and loads more income than withdean but apparently no borrowing costs we can't break even

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Exactly. Perhaps some players could offer to contribute done of their wages to address the FFP problems...

And all of Barber's extreme penny pinching and price rises can be totally blown out of the water with one bad signing.

 

[Husty]

If FFP is such a problem then I suspect the Amex must be costing an absolute fortune to run because with 4 x the crowds and loads more income than withdean but apparently no borrowing costs we can't break even

Barber's salary should be the first thing that gets cut.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The club has lost the right to make everyone pay this tax now they've changed the rules. Simply make everyone pay the cost from P & R buses , car parks to train tickets then the club wouldn't be losing money. £4.75 for a one game travel ticket on top of the levy is just a rip off and for some it is the only way they can get to the AMEX

This. We're either all in together or not at all. I'd support scrapping the transport levy rather than an weird two tier system.

 

[Guinness Boy]

And all of Barber's extreme penny pinching and price rises can be totally blown out of the water with one bad signing.

Or injury.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

If FFP is such a problem then I suspect the Amex must be costing an absolute fortune to run because with 4 x the crowds and loads more income than withdean but apparently no borrowing costs we can't break even

If you want to play with the big boys you have to spend a bit extra with the pocket money.