Setanta Loses Premier League Rights

[clapham_gull]

I think worthai meant ESPN don't have a channel here to show them on, if they got the rights.

I only know of espn classics. Is there another espn broadcasting in britain that I've not seen?

I'm not sure he did mean that, but in any case what is to stop them launching another channel.

 

[Worthai Seagull]

I'm not sure he did mean that, but in any case what is to stop them launching another channel.

They are a foreign broadcasting company...they cannot launch a channel here .Thats why they havnt come in with a bid for the Package thats up for grabs

 

[clapham_gull]

They are a foreign broadcasting company...they cannot launch a channel here .Thats why they havnt come in with a bid for the Package thats up for grabs

They've already got a channel here as have Disney and I don't recall them being particularly British.

Cartoon Network, CNN also have channels here, as do Discovery.

Are you suggesting foreign companies can't launch channels over here ? That's news to me.

 

[Worthai Seagull]

They've already got a channel here as have Disney and I don't recall them being particularly British.

Cartoon Network, CNN also have channels here, as do Discovery.

They dont have channels HERE.....they broadcast from the USA

 

[clapham_gull]

They dont have channels HERE.....they broadcast from the USA

Discovery broadcast from Chiswick, I used to work for them.

Cartoon Network broadcasts from Great Marlborough Street, I used to work for them.

Next.....

 

[Worthai Seagull]

Discovery broadcast from Chiswick, I used to work for them.

Cartoon Network broadcasts from Great Marlborough Street, I used to work for them.

Next.....

Apologies..didnt realise. Anyway , im only going on what i heard today from a couple of tv guys i was working with.... doesnt really matter anyway . Someone will get to have 23 Premiership matches ,apart from Sky !

 

[clapham_gull]

Apologies..didnt realise.!

yep

 

[Worthai Seagull]

I'll just carry on pointing my camera at the fuckin stuff , and where it ends up, i dont really give a toss anymore !!!!!!

 

[adrian29uk]

I'm just so sick of one company having the rights to x,y,z and they wonder why people view matches illegally online. It would be ok, if someone like Sky offered a pay per match service, but its all or nothing. I would certainly pay for some matches if they this type of service.

I also cannot understand why the BBC cannot get the rights to the premiership and some England games so everyone can watch. Is it a case they cannot afford it, are you telling me SKY has more money than the BBC, or is it the BBC is too tight?

 

[trueblue]

The BBC's problem is that it's hard to justify paying a fortune from the licence fee to show something that other commercial broadcasters would buy and transmit free of charge to the viewers.

It's a valid point too. It'd surely be better that the licence fee is spent on programmes that are brilliant, but unlikely to be produced by anyone else because of the vast cost involved e.g. Planet Earth...

Perhaps what this collapse proves more than anything is that, if the EU is serious about breaking Sky's monopoly position, it will have to specify that one package must be made available to the highest bidding free-to-air broadcaster. It wouldn't necessarily be great for football though, as Sky would then want to pay less for their rights.

It can't be right though that two companies have now gone under simply through trying to challenge Sky's market dominance.

 

[jordanseagull]

I'm just so sick of one company having the rights to x,y,z and they wonder why people view matches illegally online. It would be ok, if someone like Sky offered a pay per match service, but its all or nothing. I would certainly pay for some matches if they this type of service.

I also cannot understand why the BBC cannot get the rights to the premiership and some England games so everyone can watch. Is it a case they cannot afford it, are you telling me SKY has more money than the BBC, or is it the BBC is too tight?

Yes, yes i am....

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The BBC's problem is that it's hard to justify paying a fortune from the licence fee to show something that other commercial broadcasters would buy and transmit free of charge to the viewers.

It's a valid point too. It'd surely be better that the licence fee is spent on programmes that are brilliant, but unlikely to be produced by anyone else because of the vast cost involved e.g. Planet Earth...

Perhaps what this collapse proves more than anything is that, if the EU is serious about breaking Sky's monopoly position, it will have to specify that one package must be made available to the highest bidding free-to-air broadcaster. It wouldn't necessarily be great for football though, as Sky would then want to pay less for their rights.

It can't be right though that two companies have now gone under simply through trying to challenge Sky's market dominance.

What this does show is that the EU has to to tighten up it's competition laws. Sky pretty much have the monopoly again.

I'm no sure exactly what the answer is but the current legislation clearly hasnt worked.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

They dont have channels HERE.....they broadcast from the USA

Will the satellite dish at Jodrell Bank be the only one to pull in the signals ?
Numerous foreign broadcasting companies uplink from the UK so we can watch their channels on satellite.

 

[northstandsteve]

i'll miss all the european leagues, French,German,Dutch.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

They are a foreign broadcasting company...they cannot launch a channel here .Thats why they havnt come in with a bid for the Package thats up for grabs

ESPN America is on Sky's epg at channel 417
ESPN Classics is on Sky's epg at channel 442
The only problem they might have with launching a new channel/bouquet is obtaining the epg slot/s if Setanta is still going. If Setanta goes bust they can take over their channel numbers but otherwise they will have to purchase a slot/s from a placeholder (eg ?TV and ?TV+1 on 262/263) or a channel which is going to fold. Presently Sky's epg is full and until they make adjustments this is the only way to get a channel number.

 

[Gazwag]

really? how on earth have they ended up oweing that much, surely if they had tax liabilities like that they'd have been manking enough money to pay the bills

If its tax on profits then yes they would have made money but that doesnt mean they have it in the bank.

Say they made a million profit and the tax is £300k. The £1M profit could have easily been spent servicing bank loans which would then leave nothing to pay the tax.

It won't be PAYE/NI contributions, these are payable monthly.

Maybe, but being payable monthly doesnt mean they were actually paid

 

[clapham_gull]

ESPN America is on Sky's epg at channel 417
ESPN Classics is on Sky's epg at channel 442
The only problem they might have with launching a new channel/bouquet is obtaining the epg slot/s if Setanta is still going. If Setanta goes bust they can take over their channel numbers but otherwise they will have to purchase a slot/s from a placeholder (eg ?TV and ?TV+1 on 262/263) or a channel which is going to fold. Presently Sky's epg is full and until they make adjustments this is the only way to get a channel number.

Thinking about it, they wouldn't need a whole new channel for the football anyway.

 

[RM-Taylor]

Now lost the SPL:

BBC SPORT | Football | Scottish Premier | SPL seeks new television contract

Likely to go in to administation either this evening or tomorrow.

I seriously hope a minor broadcaster picks up the BSP coverage.

 

[Rookie]

ESPN for some at least then
EXCLUSIVE: Premier League football to be shown live on ESPN next season after Setanta's demise | Mail Online

 

[Rookie]

Got both which is a bit of shock
BBC NEWS | UK | ESPN buys rights to Setanta games