[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Wellesley]

I have him on ignore, of course, but peeked at one post. That was enough. He used to be semi sensible, if a little thick. The old brain cells have not worn well in the last couple of years, and he's gone full 'Realitexit with no deal' with Johnson hanging out of the back of him, ever since

More passive aggressiveness from granny. You've NEVER had me on ignore because you constantly quote me. You're pretending to be outraged because I called someone spiteful that hopes troops suffer, burn in fact, before they die. You really are a very sad old tart.

 

[beorhthelm]

Equivalent to Hitler's attempted eradication of the Jews - except that instead of killing the children you remove them from their parents and bring them up (brainwash them) as something they are not.

not sure how helpful to make such false equivilence, and that "except" makes it quite different from holocaust. its not an unusual Russian behavior to send people off across the country, its how much the east of Ukraine is populated in the first place. i'd be wary of some of the claims, especially the numbers.

 

[Icy Gull]

If I were a fighter in Mariupol, given how they have repelled and killed Russians, I'd interpret the demand to surrender as - "surrender and we'll take great pleasure in shooting you and raping and abusing your family"

I think I'd rather die fighting the ********

 

[Triggaaar]

If this is discovered to be true then Nato and the UN and every country in the world with any sort of conscience

Unfortunately, that rather limits the list of countries to democracies only

 

[GT49er]

not sure how helpful to make such false equivilence, and that "except" makes it quite different from holocaust. its not an unusual Russian behavior to send people off across the country, its how much the east of Ukraine is populated in the first place. i'd be wary of some of the claims, especially the numbers.

My post stipulated 'children' - not 'people'. You obviously don't understand the extent of the evil. Moving 'people' is one thing - ripping children from their parents is another level.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You hate women, don't you? Why else would you use pretending someone was female as an insult?

More passive aggressiveness from granny. You've NEVER had me on ignore because you constantly quote me. You're pretending to be outraged because I called someone spiteful that hopes troops suffer, burn in fact, before they die. You really are a very sad old tart.

Yes, Eric, I noticed that too. There's nothing wrong with being a granny. I love it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Talking of grandmothers; the harsh reality of war, but the compassion of the Ukrainian soldier shines.

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[Eric the meek]

not sure how helpful to make such false equivilence, and that "except" makes it quite different from holocaust. its not an unusual Russian behavior to send people off across the country, its how much the east of Ukraine is populated in the first place. i'd be wary of some of the claims, especially the numbers.

I agree with your point about being wary of some of the claims, especially the numbers.

If it turns out to be true, (and I'm sure this isn't what you meant), being usual Russian behaviour doesn't make it right. It might explain it, but it doesn't justify capturing and transporting 500,000 (or any other number) to Russia.

The problem is, those claims are being made, and it is reported (and also unconfirmed) that the Ukrainian authorities cannot get in touch with the abducted civilians, because their phones have been confiscated. Presumably a little information is trickling out of Russia, but it is likely to be sporadic and anecdotal.

Wouldn't it be a tragedy if years later, adults kept cropping up in Siberia who were found to be Ukrainian stock, the fate of their real parents unknown?

 

[dazzer6666]

Interesting to see the number of ‘things’ starting to happen on Russian soil at key places……

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[portslade seagull]

Interesting to see the number of ‘things’ starting to happen on Russian soil at key places……

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Hopefully, a pretty bad pattern for Putin

 

[dazzer6666]

Hopefully, a pretty bad pattern for Putin

Seen a couple of other similar incidents reported…….of the 3-4 million Ukraines in Russia, only needs a few to make their mark.

 

[A1X]

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[Eric the meek]

In the midst of all the senseless destruction, I love the Ukrainians' sense of humour.

'Moskva wreckage declared item of Ukrainian underwater cultural heritage'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61185469 at 13:57

 

[carlzeiss]

20 seconds in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMguZyPt9k

 

[dazzer6666]

Interesting thread on the chemical plant fire and possible impacts

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[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Yes, Eric, I noticed that too. There's nothing wrong with being a granny. I love it.

I'm sorry you have to put up with cretins. The screen grab below indicates my take on them

 

[dazzer6666]

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[The Clamp]

I read a few days ago , I will try and find the link because I haven’t seen it since, that the SAS were on the ground in Ukraine training Ukrainian troops in sabotage and guerrilla warfare. Then we start seeing strategic Russian buildings going up in smoke.

It made me double take when I read it. As it seemed like a big thing to mention so briefly. I would also think that if British SF’s are in Ukraine, it’s highly unlikely they will be just training .

Did anyone else read this or have I got it wrong do you think?


Edit; it seems so


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sas-troops-are-training-local-forces-in-ukraine-32vs5bjzb


British special forces ‘are training local troops in Ukraine’
Serving UK soldiers ‘on ground’ for first time

 

[Billy the Fish]

Interesting thread on the chemical plant fire and possible impacts

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Hopefully a few more fires in the pipeline

 

[Wellesley]

I'm sorry you have to put up with cretins. The screen grab below indicates my take on them

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This is a thread about the war in Ukraine. You're becoming obsessed with me old gal. Every time it starts with you being abusive to me. It's a small world.