Rio Ferdinand

[Da Man Clay]

Besides Neville, Beckham & Scholes that is the current England side. Maybe James will or won't play & Beckham may well have done if fit but that to me is the same bloody side.

Campbell? Owen?

So 6 of that side aren't in it? James and Beckham aren't as good as 6 years ago. Not quite the same side is it!

 

[backson]

SSN just reporting that Wembley groundsmen helped prepare the pitches at Rustenberg.

Uh-oh

 

[Vankleek Hill Seagull]

Just to confirm in case you missed it - RIO ISN'T DEF OUT YET

Confirmed by BBC that he out for up to six weeks with ligament damage. Michael Dawson to fly out and replace him.

BBC Sport - Football - Rio Ferdinand out of England World Cup squad

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Well I think it is a big loss. Carragher is poo, King too slow and Dawson unproven at this level. Can't see how it's anything other than a bad thing.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

If he's out it's a chance for capello to make up for his error and take Bent, the only striker to score 20+ goals in the top 5 european leagues and going to the WC.

Or theo, and immense impact sub.

But he won't, Dawson will go an be centre back number 5.

Sorry but had to laugh at the comment about Bent

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Sorry but had to laugh at the comment about Bent

Why?

Anyone who scores 20+ is good

someone who scores 20+ for RUBBISH Sunderland relying on assists from jones, cattermole and Reid. Defoe has modric, crouch Lennon, bale, palacios etc etc and scored less.

You can't fluke that many goals.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Why?

Anyone who scores 20+ is good

someone who scores 20+ for RUBBISH Sunderland relying on assists from jones, cattermole and Reid. Defoe has modric, crouch Lennon, bale, palacios etc etc and scored less.

You can't fluke that many goals.

Not saying they are flukes at all. Just that Bent has been utter toliet everytime he has played for England and to take him to a world cup would be a joke.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Not saying they are flukes at all. Just that Bent has been utter toliet everytime he has played for England and to take him to a world cup would be a joke.

to be fair though he's had about 3 starts including the brazil match where we insiste in on playing non stop 60 yard lobs to his FACE which he was somehow meant to Create from. He hasn't actually had a single chance created for him in an england shirt.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

On the bright side though, the Ferdinand metatarsals remain unaffected by this setback

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

to be fair though he's had about 3 starts including the brazil match where we insiste in on playing non stop 60 yard lobs to his FACE which he was somehow meant to Create from. He hasn't actually had a single chance created for him in an england shirt.

He had a few against Japan didn't he? I agree he's not had a great number of games but as he hasn't settled at international level, taking him now would be a farce. Plus he would be third choice for the position behind Rooney and Defoe with Crouch and Heskey as the two possible partners.

 

[empire]

even before it started,we had no chance of winning imo,onlt 3 world class players and that aint enough,also our reserves as it were,are seriously not good enough

 

[Yorkshire-Seagull]

even before it started,we had no chance of winning imo,onlt 3 world class players and that aint enough,also our reserves as it were,are seriously not good enough

So who out of Ashley Cole, Terry, Rio, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney are not world class?

 

[vegster]

So who out of Ashley Cole, Terry, Rio, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney are not world class?

Frankly, it's Rio

 

[1066familyman]

Very much so, Duckface has not played or played well consistently for club or country this season. He has a back " problem " which seems to defy treatment and is ongoing which makes the situation worse. To be honest, he does drop clangers on a regular basis and I'd be more than happy for Dawson to step up and fill the CB role.

Agreed.

Ferdinand has looked a liability for England for a while now. Certainly any pace he had appears to have gone.

Whilst not wishing injury on anyone - I reckon this is a blessing in disguise.

 

[Lethargic]

So who out of Ashley Cole, Terry, Rio, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney are not world class?

Ashley Cole - yes
Terry - no
Rio - not this season previously yes
Lampard - close but not quite
Gerrard - this season he has been pants
Rooney - Yes as long as he stays the distance

If Rio is our bit of bad luck I'll take it he really has not been to good this season I know the replacements are questionable but we more than enough Captains and I think even Rio would have got the run around from many a team.

 

[The Wizard]

Breaking news on SSN - Ledley King & Upson Miss Training
:US:

 

[Biscuit]

His name is Rio and he watches from the stands.

 

[Da Man Clay]

Breaking news on SSN - Ledley King & Upson Miss Training
:US:

Precautions i'm sure. James didn't train yesterday either. It's a case of anyone with even a tiny tiny knock will sit out of training.

I would be surprised if Ledley trained much at all between now and the 11th of July to be honest, especially as he's likely to be Rio's replacement he'll be wrapped in cotton wool.

 

[Chesney Christ]

Ashley Cole - yes
Terry - no
Rio - not this season previously yes
Lampard - close but not quite
Gerrard - this season he has been pants
Rooney - Yes as long as he stays the distance

If Rio is our bit of bad luck I'll take it he really has not been to good this season I know the replacements are questionable but we more than enough Captains and I think even Rio would have got the run around from many a team.

Agree on all of those. Gerrard has definitely hit world class at stages in his career but has never maintained it like truly great players do (Xavi, Zidane etc). Ashley Cole and Rooney undoutbedly. Rio at points in his career, and Lampard probably just short of world class but very very good nonetheless. Likewise Terry.

 

[sam86]

World Cup 2010: Matthew Upson absent from England training - ESPN Soccernet

Only a high temp. though...