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Richard Littlejohn.



aftershavedave

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
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as 10cc say, not in hove
Man of Harveys said:
Amen - amongst other things (mainly a hairy object located at the top of ladies' legs). He needs to get a nice big smelly mancock into his mouth down at Duke's Mound toute de suite, get it out of his system. Might relax him a bit.

He appeals to the unsophisticated, unthinking, uncultured primitive that can lurk in everyone, but especially the ignorant, the greedy and the selfish. Living proof of the adage that empty vessels tend to make the most noise, something which seemingly also applies to his fans, a sad excuse of a person whose death would instantly make the world a better place. Just my HO.

you talking about looney, littlejohn or LI harvs?
 




Dandyman

In London village.
looney said:
Immigration
controlled. quotas, vetted to weed out the bad apples and better screening for usefullness. Tempoary residency unless specified reasons.

Asylum.
Overwealmingly abused. Should take quota per UN mandate etc see above.

Cultural Diversity.

No. Assimilate or f*** off.

If you beleive in multiculturalism you need to explain what it is and how it differs from British culture of the past before I even bother answering it.

Rule of law.

Of course.:rolleyes:

civil liberties

Who's civil liberties?

Generally what is not banned is allowed and an individual can do as they please unless they inflict harm on someone else unconsentually.
Rights mean freedoms not entitlements.

racism, sexism and homophobia are.

why these three? Is this the leftwing holy trinity.How about poverty, ignorance and low expectations?


All 3 are political brickbats used to smear or styme political decenters. Do not even accept the third term as a rational concept.

Generally see civil liberties.


My definition of a multicultural society is that we all have to obey the same laws but we do not have to have only one set of cultural norms in terms of religous or other beliefs, sexual preferences, lifestyle choices or family arrangements for example forced on us.

If you believe in the rule of law you will then also support the courts when they rule against the Government on illegal detention or other abuses of power ?

If you accept immigration based on economic need, then what is your justification for quotas rather thanjudging ceses on their merits ? Also does not the logic of a single european market necessitate the free movement of goods, services and labour within that market ?

As far as the "Holy Trinity" goes, I would argue that they are all irrational bigotries which work to divide working people. Those that seek to encourage such views are by definition acting against the interests of an unified nation.

Your initial take on civil liberties is fine by me, but the question then arises to what degree are prepared to defend those rights against the state and others.
 


Big G

New member
Dec 14, 2005
1,086
Brighton
looney said:
Immigration
controlled. quotas, vetted to weed out the bad apples and better screening for usefullness. Tempoary residency unless specified reasons.

Asylum.
Overwealmingly abused. Should take quota per UN mandate etc see above.

Cultural Diversity.

No. Assimilate or f*** off.

If you beleive in multiculturalism you need to explain what it is and how it differs from British culture of the past before I even bother answering it.

Rule of law.

Of course.:rolleyes:

civil liberties

Who's civil liberties?

Generally what is not banned is allowed and an individual can do as they please unless they inflict harm on someone else unconsentually.
Rights mean freedoms not entitlements.

racism, sexism and homophobia are.

why these three? Is this the leftwing holy trinity.How about poverty, ignorance and low expectations?


All 3 are political brickbats used to smear or styme political decenters. Do not even accept the third term as a rational concept.

Generally see civil liberties.




Sounds spot on to me, but then again i'm not some soft lefty who cant get it into their head that their idea of utopian society where every loves each other and all nationalities or lifestyles live in perfect harmony has'nt and never will work...thank god.
Once again the usual lefty types spouting their double standards...ok for them voice their opinion but god help anyone who may disagree...!

And to the original point, i actually think Littlejohn makes some good and in certain circumstances spot on observations..
 


Since when are New Labour lefties? They aren't far much removed from the Tory party. Traditional Socialists hate New Labour. For all of you who are maybe not sure about what political persuasion they are try this site:

http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/index.php

Read the homepage and take the test. It will be interesting to see what some people on here come out as!
 


PILTDOWN MAN said:
Richard Whiteley said:
Utter wanker. As already said, a complete stuck record peddling his usual half truths, lies and generalisations.

His usual half truths are better than the blatant lies uttered by the lefties. The stuck record is because no one in government is making it better. Nearly every department is in freefall, one scandal after another. Keep Spinning and one day dizziness takes over and you fall over, thats what happened to this bucket of shit in power.

Finally the things Littlejohn writes about normally come from The Guardian so perhaps its them that can't stop spewing crap.

Again someone on here thinking that this Government is full of Lefties. A Government that privatised air traffic control in this country, a governmant that part privatised the London Underground.
Lefties, I don't think so!
 




Big G said:
Sounds spot on to me, but then again i'm not some soft lefty who cant get it into their head that their idea of utopian society where every loves each other and all nationalities or lifestyles live in perfect harmony has'nt and never will work...thank god.
Once again the usual lefty types spouting their double standards...ok for them voice their opinion but god help anyone who may disagree...!

And to the original point, i actually think Littlejohn makes some good and in certain circumstances spot on observations..

So righties or righty types never have double standards then do they? I think a lot of people on the right of politics just like the left don't like people who disagree their opinion.
Valid point?
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Southover Street Seagull said:
Since when are New Labour lefties? They aren't far much removed from the Tory party. Traditional Socialists hate New Labour. For all of you who are maybe not sure about what political persuasion they are try this site:

http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/index.php

Read the homepage and take the test. It will be interesting to see what some people on here come out as!

Above me are the three most sensible posts I've seen in a while. :clap: :clap: :clap:
 


looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Dandyman said:
My definition of a multicultural society is that we all have to obey the same laws but we do not have to have only one set of cultural norms in terms of religous or other beliefs, sexual preferences, lifestyle choices or family arrangements for example forced on us.

If you believe in the rule of law you will then also support the courts when they rule against the Government on illegal detention or other abuses of power ?

If you accept immigration based on economic need, then what is your justification for quotas rather thanjudging ceses on their merits ? Also does not the logic of a single european market necessitate the free movement of goods, services and labour within that market ?

As far as the "Holy Trinity" goes, I would argue that they are all irrational bigotries which work to divide working people. Those that seek to encourage such views are by definition acting against the interests of an unified nation.

Your initial take on civil liberties is fine by me, but the question then arises to what degree are prepared to defend those rights against the state and others.


Would you answer some of my questions?

do you beleive in national selfdetermination for all nations, and do they have the right to controll there own borders?

Do you beleive in Free speech, freedom of expression and democracy?

Do you think people should be allowed to critic immigration policies without being smeared as racist?

do you think the political left is in any way culpable for the rise of the BNP?
 




looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Dandyman said:
My definition of a multicultural society is that we all have to obey the same laws but we do not have to have only one set of cultural norms in terms of religous or other beliefs, sexual preferences, lifestyle choices or family arrangements for example forced on us.

If you believe in the rule of law you will then also support the courts when they rule against the Government on illegal detention or other abuses of power ?

If you accept immigration based on economic need, then what is your justification for quotas rather thanjudging ceses on their merits ? Also does not the logic of a single european market necessitate the free movement of goods, services and labour within that market ?

As far as the "Holy Trinity" goes, I would argue that they are all irrational bigotries which work to divide working people. Those that seek to encourage such views are by definition acting against the interests of an unified nation.

Your initial take on civil liberties is fine by me, but the question then arises to what degree are prepared to defend those rights against the state and others.

My definition of a multicultural society is that we all have to obey the same laws but we do not have to have only one set of cultural norms in terms of religous or other beliefs, sexual preferences, lifestyle choices or family arrangements for example forced on us.

Unacceptable definition.
My definition of a multicultural society is that we all have to obey the same laws but we do not have to have only one set of cultural norms in terms of religous or other beliefs......lifestyle choices or family arrangements for example

There is nothing new in this and there for cannot be in any way related to the political rise of "multiculturalism". The only thing new is Sexual preferences, are you saying it means gay rights or are you advocating polygamy?
 


Tony Meolas Loan Spell

Slut Faced Whores
Jul 15, 2004
18,068
Vamanos Pest
Southover Street Seagull said:
Since when are New Labour lefties? They aren't far much removed from the Tory party. Traditional Socialists hate New Labour. For all of you who are maybe not sure about what political persuasion they are try this site:

http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/index.php

Read the homepage and take the test. It will be interesting to see what some people on here come out as!


Authoritarian left! So its the Tories for me!!! :lolol:

By the way my two penneth is that Littlejohn can be a bit of a cock but he does make some interesting observations and certainly I think he does provide good counter balance to all the labour spin.

Dont believe everything you are told and surely some of the lefties on here would agree with that.
 
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Dandyman

In London village.
looney said:
Would you answer some of my questions?

do you beleive in national selfdetermination for all nations, and do they have the right to controll there own borders?

Do you beleive in Free speech, freedom of expression and democracy?

Do you think people should be allowed to critic immigration policies without being smeared as racist?

do you think the political left is in any way culpable for the rise of the BNP?

1. Yes within the limits of International Law (i.e. genocide is a matter of international law not national self-determination and if we sign up to international agreements then we should abide by them).

2. Yes, within the limits of incitement to hatred and/or violence (the old line about shouting fire in a crowded theatre). Democracy IMO is about more than a vote every five years for one bunch of crooks rather than another, but if you mean pluralism and accepting dissenting views then yes.

3. You are allowed to criticise immigration policies. If you make untruthful or bigoted assertions in doing so, then you will be attacked for doing so. That is not the same thing as seeking to deny you an opinion or the right to express it.

4. I think neo-Labour has a culpability for the rise of the BNP by abandoning working class interests. I also think some left groups have made tactical mistakes in combatting the far-right. You will need to give more details if you want a more detailed response.
 




Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
Authoritarian left! So its the Tories for me!!! :lolol:

By the way my two penneth is that Littlejohn can be a bit of a cock but he does make some interesting observations and certainly I think he does provide good counter balance to all the labour spin.

Dont believe everything you are told and surely some of the lefties on here would agree with that.

I got Authoritorian Left too. When I did it a few years ago I got Libertarian Left!
 


Richard Whiteley

New member
Sep 24, 2003
585
Big G said:
Sounds spot on to me, but then again i'm not some soft lefty

why is it people like you are all so obsessed with appearing 'soft'?


pretty f***ing childish isn't it?
 


Dandyman

In London village.
Richard Whiteley said:
why is it people like you are all so obsessed with appearing 'soft'?


pretty f***ing childish isn't it?

Either that or some unresolved issues about their own masculinity/potency.;)
 






Dandyman said:
1. Yes within the limits of International Law (i.e. genocide is a matter of international law not national self-determination and if we sign up to international agreements then we should abide by them).

2. Yes, within the limits of incitement to hatred and/or violence (the old line about shouting fire in a crowded theatre). Democracy IMO is about more than a vote every five years for one bunch of crooks rather than another, but if you mean pluralism and accepting dissenting views then yes.

3. You are allowed to criticise immigration policies. If you make untruthful or bigoted assertions in doing so, then you will be attacked for doing so. That is not the same thing as seeking to deny you an opinion or the right to express it.

4. I think neo-Labour has a culpability for the rise of the BNP by abandoning working class interests. I also think some left groups have made tactical mistakes in combatting the far-right. You will need to give more details if you want a more detailed response.

Top answer Dandyman

:clap:
 


Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
24,325
Sussex
just opened thread , i dont know much about RLJ but judging by the number of posts the bloke is not exactly PC and has therefore got the peace loving PC brigade out there tree's their trying to save. If he moans about homo's taking over everywhere , assylum seekers , single jobless mums then I am with him !!
 


Big G

New member
Dec 14, 2005
1,086
Brighton
Richard Whiteley said:
why is it people like you are all so obsessed with appearing 'soft'?


pretty f***ing childish isn't it?


Err....it didnt say anything about me wanting to appear soft...moron. Just the opposite, so if you are going to banter back at least get it right!


The point was made due to how pathetic some lefties go on about issues. If some one defies their retoric of how immigrants are great for this country no matter how many and we should all embrace them, then all of a sudden the "You Racist" remarks are wheeled out quicker that John Reid at a Cabinet reshuffle.
Also...New Labour, Tough On Crime..Tough On The Causes Of Crime.........................................Dont make me f***ing laugh.
More like ..New Labour, Its societies fault your a criminal so we'll let you go with a jolly good talking to or if you are a foreign criminal we'll just say what the hell and let you go anyway. But if you are a naughty young person its not your fault either so we'll send you on safari because will teach you not to commit crime won't it?

So Whiteley you twat, i stand by my initial comment of i think lefties are soft and yes i resorted to abuse for no other reason than i just don't like you!:lolol:
 




Lefties are soft?
Was Josef Stalin soft?
It's all the left's fault isn't it, the crime, the immigartion etc etc.
Lets all blame left polticians and left wing people.
New Labour aren't left wing, they are centre right.
Why do people think they are left wing?
 


Big G

New member
Dec 14, 2005
1,086
Brighton
Southover Street Seagull said:
Lefties are soft?
Was Josef Stalin soft?
It's all the left's fault isn't it, the crime, the immigartion etc etc.
Lets all blame left polticians and left wing people.
New Labour aren't left wing, they are centre right.
Why do people think they are left wing?


Yes i think SOME lefties are soft...as i said..read if properly.

I don't know, was he. I dont recall mentioning him but as i said SOME lefties are soft.

Yes i blame politicians...who else should we blame for the state of the country then? And yes i blame the people who voted for them.

New Labour or what ever Labour will always be left wing... i personally cant see them as centre right in anyway.

And finally, i cant answer for other people.
 


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