nicko31
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Straight forward...
England have never won a knockout game against a BIG side on foreign soil. Its not complicated
England have never won a knockout game against a BIG side on foreign soil. Its not complicated
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[Football] Reasons England won’t win the Euros…
- Thread starter holybanjo
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Defence.
Mentality.
Manager.
Mentality.
Manager.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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I like this thread.
It predicts exactly what and where we do and will go wrong. So armed with this knowledge and foresight you'd imagine that it will temper expectations but I'm confident that the majority of people on this thread will all pile in when/if we get knocked out, acting like it's a shock or a calamity. Despite predicting it. and giving the reasons and historical precedents for it.
For those who want to enjoy the tournament and want to cling to a glimmer of hope and possibility England have the best player in the premier League, the best player in La Liga and a record shattering top scorer in the Bundesliga.
Any other nation that could boast that amongst their ranks would be considered worthy of respect. Not in England if you're a certain type of Englishman though.
It predicts exactly what and where we do and will go wrong. So armed with this knowledge and foresight you'd imagine that it will temper expectations but I'm confident that the majority of people on this thread will all pile in when/if we get knocked out, acting like it's a shock or a calamity. Despite predicting it. and giving the reasons and historical precedents for it.
For those who want to enjoy the tournament and want to cling to a glimmer of hope and possibility England have the best player in the premier League, the best player in La Liga and a record shattering top scorer in the Bundesliga.
Any other nation that could boast that amongst their ranks would be considered worthy of respect. Not in England if you're a certain type of Englishman though.
HastingsSeagull
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Gareth Southgate.
End of thread shirly!
End of thread shirly!
Even if we’re 3-0 up in the final, we’ll contrive some way of messing it up.
As far as I’m concerned, being born in ‘78, England have won NOTHING. It’s embarrassing that we still harp on about ‘66.
As far as I’m concerned, being born in ‘78, England have won NOTHING. It’s embarrassing that we still harp on about ‘66.
Coldwaltham Seagull
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- Mar 8, 2024
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No reason we cant win the Euros
The reason we wont will our defensive frailties
The reason we wont will our defensive frailties
Great post.
That's the bizarre combo when it comes to England on NSC.
So negative yet also so entitled at the same time - pick one.
its the knockers getting in early. They've hated the recent success
Growing up our biggest issue was not being as technical. We have that now .
We are in the mix with the top sides , If we have some luck then we could win it.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Rubbish. We couldn't even score a goal against Italy in 90 mins.
Knockers or realists?
I hope we can win it, but don't expect us to.
TWOCHOICEStom
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I'd love to see Graham Potter in charge of England.
Normal Rob
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because he wouldn't be in charge of us?
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Clearly what he's holding out for. It'd be an even easier life than he had at the Albion
Flounce
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- Nov 15, 2006
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Yes, I’m negative about England but entitled? I don’t f***ing think so, I know we’ll get beat when the chips are down and I expect it.
I would love the FA to employ a genuinely good football manager over a pliable yes man when Southgate goes, then I would be very enthusiastic as there is no doubt we have some amazing players.
Flounce
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- Nov 15, 2006
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Don’t think anyone has hated the success that we have had have they? They have hated being rolled over and being beaten in the latter stages when we could probably have won if we’d had a manager capable of competing with the best, we have certainly had the players (whether they were picked or not is a moot point)
I agree with the part in (.....)
He could give us a history lesson...back to 1966...or 1066 if he prefers
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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If you ignore the fact we won the 2nd leg of the 1968 Euro quarter-final in Spain 2-1 and focus on straight single game knockout ties vs. an elite nation at the time on foreign soil then we are 0-14. The defeats are as follows:
1954 Uruguay Q/F
1962 Brazil Q/F
1968 Yugoslavia S/F
1970 West Germany Q/F
1986 Argentina Q/F
1990 West Germany S/F
1998 Argentina L/16
2002 Brazil Q/F
2004 Portugal Q/F
2006 Portugal Q/F
2010 Germany L/16
2012 Italy Q/F
2018 Croatia S/F
2022 France Q/F
Nicks
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Southgate like another certain manager has no Plan B.
He will also play Foden out of position, if he plays him at all !!!
He will also play Foden out of position, if he plays him at all !!!
Nicks
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Sorrel
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Yep, to win it we’d probably have to beat at least two of Italy, France and Germany. Then there’s Spain, Portugal and Belgium.
If we get out of the group and do ok I’ll be happy. If we keep scoring we might be alright. If we rely on the defence we won’t.