Prince Charles to Marry

[Highfields Seagull]

..... tell that to the monarch who abdicated because he wanted to do what Charles is doing.

This is the one amusing thing - how it is all made up as they go along.

True, true.

"It is part of our constitution" is not an argument for maintaining the status quo though.

 

[Simster]

..... tell that to the monarch who abdicated because he wanted to do what Charles is doing.

This is the one amusing thing - how it is all made up as they go along.

How has having a "flexible", unwritten constitution benefitted anybody else in this country except the Royal family?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

"An opinion poll conducted by Mori

blimey - he did that one as well. Now that is attention seeking.

 

[Yorkie]

Come off it. Why is a contrary position resentment ?

Maybe resentment is a strong word. Knocking priviledges and position can come across that way.

I don't begrudge people their priviledges because of the family they were born into.

I do question the behaviour of those people ie Harry, and in this instance Charles but I don't question they money or tax concessions they have.

It is up to Parliament to change those tax concessions and priviledges.
Parliament is elected by the people.

(Not being an intellectual I know what I feel but have difficulty in expressing it )

 

[Highfields Seagull]

How has having a "flexible", unwritten constitution benefitted anybody else in this country except the Royal family?

I agree. I guess I was using this example to look to the future to argue that the "constitution" was not an argument for maintaining the status quo.

 

[Yorkie]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3701086.stm

"An opinion poll conducted by Mori on behalf of Republic earlier this year suggested only 47% of Britons would want to keep the monarchy following the passing of the Queen."

Another quote from the same article

But 55% would prefer Prince Charles to become King rather than Britain getting an elected head of state, which polled only 31%.

 

[Simster]

Another quote from the same article

But 55% would prefer Prince Charles to become King rather than Britain getting an elected head of state, which polled only 31%.

Indeed. Thanks for backing up my original point that 30% of the country (at least) is Republican.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Maybe resentment is a strong word. Knocking priviledges and position can come across that way.

I don't think so. It is a lazy argument - trying to discredit the motives of the other person because the case can't be made.

 

[Yorkie]

I don't think so. It is a lazy argument - trying to discredit the motives of the other person because the case can't be made.

It's the only one I am capable of. I haven't the words to say how I feel.

 

[Eggmundo]

I can understand peoples resentment of the Royal Family but I can't subscribe to it.
IMO the Royals represent this Country, if you were to go through all the traditions we hold dear and discard them because 'they don't give anything back' then you take away the very essence of this country.
When I take my Kids to London and we see all the famous sites, I feel proud of my country, when I walk past Buckingham Palace my chest swells.

Maybe I will decide to join the anti Royalist bandwagon later on, maybe as a mature student

 

[Man of Harveys]

Abolishing fee-paying schools would have a much greater beneficial impact on this country's weird ancient class system than getting rid of the royals, IMHO.

 

[caz99]

I can understand peoples resentment of the Royal Family but I can't subscribe to it.
IMO the Royals represent this Country, if you were to go through all the traditions we hold dear and discard them because 'they don't give anything back' then you take away the very essence of this country.
When I take my Kids to London and we see all the famous sites, I feel proud of my country, when I walk past Buckingham Palace my chest swells.

Maybe I will decide to join the anti Royalist bandwagon later on, maybe as a mature student

thats the whole thing though isnt it. they are supposed to represent the country but what example do they set carrying on like they do. its got bugger all to do with the heritage of this country now.

 

[Simster]

Abolishing fee-paying schools would have a much greater beneficial impact on this country's weird ancient class system than getting rid of the royals, IMHO.

How exactly? There are fee paying schools across various European republics that don't have the ridiculous class systems that we have.

What about if my kids have a talent for drama or music or whatever? I want to be able to give them the opportunity to develop those skills. What about those kids who need more one-to-one attention to get along? I might choose to pay simply to give them attention in smaller class rooms. My son is 3 - if he does need extra attention, then he hasn't got the time to wait for the state school system to change sufficiently to be able to provide him that.

I agree with the sentiment, but it's ridiculously idealistic.

 

[Highfields Seagull]

Tradition - another weak argument.

We used to traditionally help round up people in Africa and send them of to the Americas as slaves.

It was traditional to send kids off to work down mines and in machines.

Traditionally only posh men had the vote.

 

[Eggmundo]

thats the whole thing though isnt it. they are supposed to represent the country but what example do they set carrying on like they do. its got bugger all to do with the heritage of this country now.

They are Human, I don't think they act too bad?
Harry is a growing lad, he's going to make mistakes, Charles is Charles, Phillip is excellent, Queen keeps quiet and Wills has never put a foot wrong.
I can quite safely say I have done a lot worse.

They act a lot better than they use to, and they never had the press to contend with, not untill Charles the First .(Blood on our hands anyone?)

 

[Trufflehound]

...only 47% of Britons would want to keep the monarchy following the passing of the Queen."

Following the passing of the Queen, I sincerely hope that most people would wipe, flush, and wash their hands.

 

[Eggmundo]

Tradition - another weak argument.

We used to traditionally help round up people in Africa and send them of to the Americas as slaves.

It was traditional to send kids off to work down mines and in machines.

Traditionally only posh men had the vote.

Traditionally we have always had a Monarchy, that makes sense, your examples aren't traditoin.

 

[Simster]

Traditionally we have always had a Monarchy, that makes sense, your examples aren't traditoin.

Lets have a definition of "tradition", otherwise you guys are going to go round and round in circles on this one.

 

[caz99]

They are Human, I don't think they act too bad?
Harry is a growing lad, he's going to make mistakes, Charles is Charles, Phillip is excellent, Queen keeps quiet and Wills has never put a foot wrong.
I can quite safely say I have done a lot worse.

They act a lot better than they use to, and they never had the press to contend with, not untill Charles the First .(Blood on our hands anyone?)

not interested in harry. charles is a hypocrite, why should be head of the christian church and spout on about divorcees not marrying in the eyes of god then do it himself. its always one rule for them and one rule for us. he is a weak snivelling idiot.

 

[Titanic]

charles is a hypocrite, why should be head of the christian church

and spout on about divorcees not marrying in the eyes of god then do it himself.

When have you ever heard him 'spout on' about divorcees marrying ?? and also have you not heard him talk about all sorts of faiths - and particularly his self-styled 'defended of faiths' title ??