[Albion] Premier League 30/11 - 1/12

[rogersix]

This time last year Hughton's side didn't look like it would go 3 from 23 either. In fact Brighton were beating Palace 3-1 about this time 12 months ago - had won 5 of the previous 8 and were in 10th place with 9 points. Today Brighton are 15th with 15 points - 3 losses on the bounce and a game on Wednesday away to Arsenal. Win at Arsenal and then you could argue things are going pretty well.

you could argue things are going much better right now

now we are not being dragged back by hughts

 

[rogersix]

As i pointed out on the Hughton to West Ham thread - Sean Dyche went on the same nosedive from August to December last season and wasn't sacked. Dyche was convinced he was going to be sacked - Burnley were getting drilled week in and week out.

so what is your point?

everyone involved thinks that they should get sacked,

even the sackee, and then they get sacked,

what are you actualy crying about?

 

[rogersix]

Both Alzate and Connolly were injured last season and when Connolly recovered in April he couldn't get into a team in League One. The claims about Hughton not playing the kids is false. Potter had planned sending connolly out on loan until David Weir persuaded him not to after seeing Connolly playing for the Irish U21s at the Toulon tournament in June.

source info plz

 

[rogersix]

I get that there are reasons to justify Hughton's sacking. I think it was a mistake - continuity counts for a lot in the PL when you are a 'small' club - Burnley and Bournemouth have proven this (and to a lesser extent Palace).

I don't agree with Hughton's sacking - I think that after getting over the two year struggle phase for promoted clubs Hughton would have kicked on. Changing pretty much everything that is happening on the pitch is risky - Potter is an unproven entity - the style of play is risky - and the defence is not as solid as it needs to be. Hopefully it won't all go belly-up - but that is a risk - and a level head is needed. Two seasons ago Everton were trying to poach Silva from Watford - they failed but a few months later Watford sacked him - he was hired by Everton and it looks like that was a mistake too. Finding the right fit for the job is massive in football - inevitably it will come to an end - but I believe Hughton was the right fit here and I don't think it had to end last season. Time will tell if Potter is the right fit for Brighton.

oh right, thanks for your incorrect opinion,

hughts was the wrong fit for our club, and magic arry potter is exactly right

 

[rogersix]

I noticed that Spurs have risen to 5th under Jose.

good input pops,

totally irrelevant as always

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

source info plz

Posted the like three of four times - it was in an Irish newspaper - go and run a search - I am not going to dig it out again.

 

[rogersix]

Whoopi doo
Let's dance around the Christmas tree in celebration

he's madder than you think he is

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

oh right, thanks for your incorrect opinion,

hughts was the wrong fit for our club, and magic arry potter is exactly right

yea right - he only saved the club from relegation to League One then got the club promoted and kept them in the PL for two seasons all in the course of 4 and a bit years - terrible fit really - whereas Potter is the perfect fit after 14 games.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

All about opinions.

My instinct tells me that Potter will be a success IF he can keep us up this season. I agree with you partly when you reference the over the top comments made a few weeks ago that we’d finish in a very lofty position. But you have to admire their glass-half-full look on life. I suspect we’ll be in the wider relegation mix, but in the end will survive comfortably.

All guess work, not one of us knows, otherwise we’d be minting it with the bookies.

Regarding CH, I loved the bloke and what he did for the club, giving us top flight football for the first time in 34 years and keeping us up twice with a bottom 4 budget. But in the end I hated all those home losses so much, we were outclassed by a succession of relegation rivals, sadly I think TB made the right decision.

Another point I kind of agree with you on, is about the youth/U23 players. I don’t think they were ready last season.

I also believe that Andone (temperament), Locadia and Jahanbakhsh weren’t good enough. CH had a part say, but he did not do the scouting of Winstanley and his extensive team of analysts. Hamstringing CH in team selection.

I’m optimistic .... I’d say an Albion mojo of ‘7.5’ if there was another of those NSC polls right now.

You see - that is how we can have a discussion - one point I would offer a correction on - apparently Hughton was operating with the third lowest budget in the PL.

 

[rogersix]

yea right - he only saved the club from relegation to League One then got the club promoted and kept them in the PL for two seasons all in the course of 4 and a bit years - terrible fit really - whereas Potter is the perfect fit after 14 games.

are you aware of the space/time continuum mrs. hughton?

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Has GP recruitment been any better than CH? I do not think there is a lot to chose between them. The stand out one of GP being Trossard.

It is a lot harder to recruit players than people think - the money being paid is mad and if you drop out of the PL then all of a sudden you are like Bolton or Sunderland.

Potter has the advantage of building on last year and the year before - and players do get better and more experienced. The squad becomes more solid. I think the Spurs win was big in terms of the confidence of the team and Connolly getting two was huge on his first start. Maupay has chipped in but I don't think his goals have had as big an impact and he is lacking consistency (not unusual for someone stepping up from the Championship). Potter does have better options up front than Hughton did last year. But another striker is still needed and they are not easy to come by - the Vardy's and Jimenez's are a rare commodity.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

are you aware of the space/time continuum

And you can explain it to us ?

 

[rogersix]

And you can explain it to us ?

so you mean no then?

 

[rogersix]

Posted the like three of four times - it was in an Irish newspaper - go and run a search - I am not going to dig it out again.

aah;

so more jibber jabber then

 

[rogersix]

It is a lot harder to recruit players than people think - the money being paid is mad and if you drop out of the PL then all of a sudden you are like Bolton or Sunderland.

Potter has the advantage of building on last year and the year before - and players do get better and more experienced. The squad becomes more solid. I think the Spurs win was big in terms of the confidence of the team and Connolly getting two was huge on his first start. Maupay has chipped in but I don't think his goals have had as big an impact and he is lacking consistency (not unusual for someone stepping up from the Championship). Potter does have better options up front than Hughton did last year. But another striker is still needed and they are not easy to come by - the Vardy's and Jimenez's are a rare commodity.

it's obviously impossible to sign a half decent forward if you're hughton...

ooo da fuk wood wanna play dat shit?

 

[GT49er]

yea right - he only saved the club from relegation to League One then got the club promoted and kept them in the PL for two seasons all in the course of 4 and a bit years - terrible fit really - whereas Potter is the perfect fit after 14 games.

Yeh, I think I get it. Brighton sack an Irish manage (albeit a Jack Charlton granddad's-pint-of-Guiness type of Irish) - new English manager drops a ROI international CB in favour of English CBs -

OOhh - you can't be a real Brighton fan unless you turn up at the Amex every home game - I fondly remember watching (Irish)Tony Grealish, (Irish) Gary Howlett, (Irish) Gerry Ryan and (Irish) Michael Robinson play.

Yeh, I think I detect a pattern here ...................................

 

[rogersix]

As i pointed out on the Hughton to West Ham thread - Sean Dyche went on the same nosedive from August to December last season and wasn't sacked. Dyche was convinced he was going to be sacked - Burnley were getting drilled week in and week out.

so what is your point?

everyone involved thinks that they should get sacked,

even the sackee, and then they get sacked,

what are you actualy crying about?

you enjoy a lot of typing don't you, but you skipped this one;

thoughts?

 

[Sheebo]

Has GP recruitment been any better than CH? I do not think there is a lot to chose between them. The stand out one of GP being Trossard.

Yes - it’s clearly better football and the next stage of the prem league and becoming an established club. Clearly. We lost to the champions of Europe away 2-1 ffs - cracking result on the face of it.

 

[Stat Brother]

Has anyone written anything new about the end of CH's tenure at the Albion?

 

[Stat Brother]

Yes - it’s clearly better football and the next stage of the prem league and becoming an established club. Clearly. We lost to the champions of Europe away 2-1 ffs - cracking result on the face of it.

None of that registers if you're a Spurs fan.