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hola gus

New member
Aug 8, 2010
1,797
Can anyone give me some advice on plumbing costs? My parents recently had a combi boiler fail on them so wanted a cheap replacement as they are moving in a couple of years. They asked a plumber they knew to fit it and he came back with a cost of £1,600 Inc the boiler. Thinking that was dear and must be the cost of the boiler, they bought a cheapish boiler themselves from wicks for under £500. Have asked a different plumber to do the labour and he has quoted £700 to do the work.
Now surely with all the pipe work in place it should take no more than half a day to do the work? Are plumbers really earning that much? I know they have to take a week off work at their own costs for the corgi regulations etc, but these labour costs seem extortionate? Thoughts please!
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,876
Crap Town
A Polish plumber who is corgi registered wouldn't charge that much.
 




Uncle C

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2004
11,707
Bishops Stortford
Its always amazes me that some of the unemployed kids dont get on this gravey train.
 








Uncle C

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2004
11,707
Bishops Stortford
I would expect british gas would want closer to three grand for the job

In my experience most plumbers will not fit a boiler or gas fire purchased by the customer. It creates a big headache if there is a fault in the appliance. The customer will blame the installer and the installer will blame the appliance and will charge extra to assist in replacement or repair of the faulty appliance.

If you purchase via the plumber they add an extra couple of hundred quid to the price for the priviledge. Its a real stitch up.
 






seven stands

New member
May 25, 2006
2,690
hastings
5 years college
Gas safe course
Yearly gas safe subscription
Van insurance
Van tax
Van petrol
Van wear and tear
Public liability insurance
Tools
Boiler training courses
Plus boiler, flue, controls, pipe work, system filter, system cleaner, radiator valves
Time for doing paper work
The tax man
National insurance
food
Rent / morgate
The wife
Ect

It all adds up £1,700 is about as cheap as you will get
 


hola gus

New member
Aug 8, 2010
1,797
In my experience most plumbers will not fit a boiler or gas fire purchased by the customer. It creates a big headache if there is a fault in the appliance. The customer will blame the installer and the installer will blame the appliance and will charge extra to assist in replacement or repair of the faulty appliance.

If you purchase via the plumber they add an extra couple of hundred quid to the price for the priviledge. Its a real stitch up.

The boiler my parents have bought comes with a 2 year guarantee to Inc any labour that's needs for it to be fixed. So that shouldn't be a problem to a plumber who wants the work.
 


Uncle C

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2004
11,707
Bishops Stortford
5 years college
Gas safe course
Yearly gas safe subscription
Van insurance
Van tax
Van petrol
Van wear and tear
Public liability insurance
Tools
Boiler training courses
Plus boiler, flue, controls, pipe work, system filter, system cleaner, radiator valves
Time for doing paper work
The tax man
National insurance
food
Rent / morgate
The wife
Ect

It all adds up £1,700 is about as cheap as you will get

I trust the £300 an hour softens the blow a little.
 




Uncle C

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2004
11,707
Bishops Stortford
The boiler my parents have bought comes with a 2 year guarantee to Inc any labour that's needs for it to be fixed. So that shouldn't be a problem to a plumber who wants the work.

I agree, but can talk from experience. Using the Gas Safe internet site I contacted the 20 nearest installers to my house with the aim of their installing a gas fire I was to buy myself. Not a single one was interested in the job under those terms.

Thats the reality.
 


Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,790
Brighton
5 years college
Gas safe course
Yearly gas safe subscription
Van insurance
Van tax
Van petrol
Van wear and tear
Public liability insurance
Tools
Boiler training courses
Plus boiler, flue, controls, pipe work, system filter, system cleaner, radiator valves
Time for doing paper work
The tax man
National insurance
food
Rent / morgate
The wife
Ect

It all adds up £1,700 is about as cheap as you will get

12 of those apply to every self employed person ???
 






seven stands

New member
May 25, 2006
2,690
hastings
12 of those apply to every self employed person ???

Im not saying they dont, Just pointing out that the only cost of being a plumber is not just " a week off to do gas safe "




If a boiler is fitted correctly it will take more than a day plus the price of a boiler will not include any flue, external controls, pipe work and extra fittings which soon add up so £700 is a cheap price if fitted to current regulations and manufactures guide lines
 






seven stands

New member
May 25, 2006
2,690
hastings
right i must be bored

Biasi ActivA 200V 20kW Open Vent Boiler Screwfix.com £639

Biasi Standard Horizontal Flue Kit Screwfix.com £40

Grundfos UPS15 - 50 5 metre Circulating Pump Screwfix.com £80

Honeywell Y Plan 7 Day Heating Control Pack Screwfix.com £150

White 15mm Angled TRV Screwfix.com x6 £60

Fernox TF1 Total Filter 22mm Screwfix.com £99

Copper Tube 15mm x 3m Screwfix.com x2 (min) £20

Copper Tube 22mm x 3m Screwfix.com x2 (min) £30

La-Co Flux 475g Screwfix.com £10

Fernox Solder Wire Lead-Free Screwfix.com £25

Yorkshire Endex Straight Coupling NS1 15mm Pack of 10 Screwfix.com £3

Yorkshire Endex Straight Coupling NS1 22mm Pack of 10 Screwfix.com £6

Yorkshire Endex Equal Tee NS24 22mm Pack of 10 Screwfix.com £30

Yorkshire Endex Equal Tee N24 15mm Pack of 10 Screwfix.com £6

Yorkshire Endex Elbow NS12 15mm Pack of 10 Screwfix.com £4

Yorkshire Endex Elbow NS12 22mm Pack of 10 Screwfix.com £10

Yorkshire Endex Fitting Reducer N6 22 x 15mm Pack of 10 Screwfix.com £11

Oakey Steel Wool Medium 200g Screwfix.com £4

GoGas Butane/Propane Mixed Gas Cartridge 350g Screwfix.com £5

Hinge Clip 22mm Pack of 100 Screwfix.com £9

Sentinel X300 System Cleaner 1Ltr Screwfix.com £17

Sentinel X100 Central Heating Scale Inhibitor 1Ltr Screwfix.com £17

Screwfix total £1275 assuming boiler is in roughly the same place and the gas pipe is the correct size

plus min of 2 - 3 days labour ( at unc c price ) £6,300

so before my above 12 normall standard self employed rubbish we are already looking at £7,575.

I would take your original quote
 








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