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Perry v Jordan, tonight, BBC SCR
- Thread starter The Clown of Pevensey Bay
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I think it's ironic that the biggest looking homosexual on that show was the jaffer himself
London Irish
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SJ's Love Monkey said:
Absolutely - can you imagine in a million years a gent like Dick Knight referring to any other football fans as "scum"?
What Jordan said was worse though, because it taps dangerously into a contemporary social problem of hatred of gays, you still get a lot of gay-bashing in schools and suicide rates among gay teens are still much higher than the average.
He has got to grow up and realise that while his words on their own are unlikeley to cause damage, they contribute to a climate of nasty opinion that can.
And before you ask, I don't have a particular beef with Jordan generally, I usually find his publicity-hound antics quite entertaining.
SJ's Love Monkey said:
Think you are wrong there, if another league chairman had said it I think there would be a much bigger outcry. As it was Jordan, well-known terrace lad chairman, most people just roll their eyes, shrug their shoulders, maybe say "twat", and then move on. He actually gets away with far more because of that image of himself he presents as a risque joker.
If a more sober-minded chairman who we had no real rivalry with had said this about Brighton fans, first off the shock levels would have hundred times more and I think the subsequent backlash would have been more intense.
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So Simon Jordan is a twat who think's it's acceptable to say that kind of thing on national TV.
Just the latest addition to the long list of reasons why I wouldn't give him the time of day or piss on him if he was on fire.
Just the latest addition to the long list of reasons why I wouldn't give him the time of day or piss on him if he was on fire.
Arthur
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Buzzer said:
Awww shucks, thanks! But given how you've massively over-reacted about this whole Simon Jordan parlavar I expect we probably wouldn't get along very well. So probably best if we don't go out for a night out any time soon.
Thanks for the complements though.
It's the old problem of what's 'banter' and what's 'abuse'. Frankly away fans singing "Does your boyfriend know you're here" or even "Do you take it up the arse?" I class as 'banter'; unoriginal and slightly tasteless perhaps but no worse than us chanting "Sheepshaggers!", "Dirty northern bastards!" or (to Hereford and Shrewsbury fans) "You're Welsh and you know you are!" Long may it all continue.
BUT what was said to Buzzer and his son was abuse and should be stamped out. I just don't want to see the baby thrown out with the bathwater, I don't want to see the emotion and passion of football crowds reduced to the level of tennis spectators.
BUT what was said to Buzzer and his son was abuse and should be stamped out. I just don't want to see the baby thrown out with the bathwater, I don't want to see the emotion and passion of football crowds reduced to the level of tennis spectators.
SJ's Love Monkey
Ambrose-ia
Now this is what a Brighton fan posted about Cardiff fans today. So why is this acceptable among you but what Jordan said isnt?
I am sorry but that is as offensive to Cardiff fans as what Uncle Si said to your lot on Saturday, surely? So what's the difference i am intrigued to know
bristolseagull said:
I am sorry but that is as offensive to Cardiff fans as what Uncle Si said to your lot on Saturday, surely? So what's the difference i am intrigued to know
jonny.rainbow
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- Oct 29, 2005
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SJ's Love Monkey said:
The difference is this is the thought of one Brighton fan on an interenet message board.
Not the thoughts of a man in a position of responsibility in football and the media, and employer to thousands of people, made on a widely watched television channel.
How would you feel if you were a gay man going for a job interview with Simon Jordan, having heard his comments?
SJ's Love Monkey
Ambrose-ia
jonny.rainbow said:
Oh have a day off mate its a stereotype and like most stereotypes its not true! What do you think that all Australians wear corked hats and are all called Bruce?
No just the same way that not everyone really thinks Brighton fans are all gay!
SJ's Love Monkey said:
It's not just us though is it? Outrage have got involved.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.1114275.0.soccer_chiefs_joke_homophobic.php
jonny.rainbow
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- Oct 29, 2005
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SJ's Love Monkey said:
The point is that a man in Jordan's position has shown that he thinks homosexuality is fair game for ridicule.
I doubt any Homosexuals working for hiim feel the same way you do.
Barrel of Fun
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SJ's Love Monkey said:
In a sense what Simon Jordan actually said is not wrong in itself, apart from insinuating that we are all gay. Never did he say that homosexuality is wrong and so on. However, saying something like that is encouraging homosexual ‘banter’, which in turn leads to the homophobic taunts.
It is not just about Brighton fans being offended, but the homosexual community as a whole. Why should it be ridiculed?
As far as the sheep shagging is concerned, that IS banter. There is no such thing as sheep shagging, except the odd case I am sure (Mr Alifi and the Goat).
Arthur
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Yorkie said:
Hardly got involved!!
They were asked to comment by the press!!
Parson Henry
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jonny.rainbow said:
That reminds me SJLM, did you get that job working the turnstile at Selhurst Park?
Parson Henry
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Arthur said:
Just a quick question how would you react to that insult?
Arthur
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Perry Milkins said:
Well as it made me chuckle last night I expect I'd probably laugh it off. Quite frankly I've been called worse in the past and no doubt it will happen in the future.
One of the things that makes football great in my opinion is for 90 minutes you can have a completely irrational hatred for another team whether that be the supporters, players, officials whoever. People interpret that hatred in their own individual way.
Do you think the chap that actually said it believed the fella was going in to the toilets to sexually abuse his kid?? I very much doubt it.
Maybe my tolerance to such things is higher than some of you but I really wouldn't be offended what some drunken berk said to me and if the kid has been raised properly then s/he will no the difference between right and wrong and when it's appropriate to call someone paedo bumboy or what ever it was.
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London Irish
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Arthur said:
He probably would have too if he was on his own but he was with his little boy. Would you really be happy with stuff being said like that around your kids?
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Tom Bombadil
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Arthur said:
So you're expecting a 4 year old to be able to understand that. You don't have kids do you.
Mr Jordan's publicist Max Clifford told The Argus: "If anybody has seen the programme they will understand it was just a bit of banter. The Brighton fans were jeering Simon and his comment was very much tongue-in-cheek and nothing more."
So now Jordan has his publicist accusing us of RIMMING.
So now Jordan has his publicist accusing us of RIMMING.