Our new academy , waste of money?

[Biscuit]

It's not just an academy, it's our own training facilities - state of the art facilities at that. It's not all about getting promoted to the prem as fast as possible, it's got plenty to do with consolidating what we have ie a solid championship club looking to improve year on year. With the greatest of respect Bigbelly thank god Tony Bloom is in charge and not you.

Excellent post.

There has been some beyond stupid shit written on here recently but I think this thread takes the biscuit for me.

 

[JoeBHAFC]

Jake caskey is only 17? he's not ready physically for a competative championship. next season will be a big one for him.....

 

[Diego Napier]

Excellent post.

There has been some beyond stupid shit written on here recently but I think this thread takes the biscuit for me.

Or more precisely, the op

 

[bathseagull]

While eating lunch this afternoon I was pondering our new academy and thinking about some top young players coming of our new production line just like Southampton, Arsenal, Everton and Man Utd and Palace just to name a few .

But then do we really need to spunk £15 million on one and never play our youngsters? We should just spend the money on strengthening the squad to push for the premier and worry about this so called academy at a later date because Gus will never play our talent unless it’s a cup game which he/we know we’ll never win.

The reason I ask is Gus is excited by our new academy being built but our youngsters haven’t a cat in hell of breaking into the first team. Ok Dunk has but only because of elphick and el-abd are injured otherwise Dunk would be like Jake forster caskey being left in the wilderness.

It get’s my back up when you see other teams bedding their youngsters into their first team, ok, 20 minutes here or there but it’s good experience but we don’t, ok dunk only as we’ve no defensive cover. What does it take for our youngsters to get a run out? All midfield injured or our entire first team going down with a bug.

Thoughts please?

So Dunk is only getting a place because Elphick and El-Abd are out? Can no-one else see the pattern with these three players...?

Nah, let's not bother developing youth, we're clearly no good at it!

 

[Bwian]

While eating lunch this afternoon I was pondering our new academy and thinking about some top young players coming of our new production line just like Southampton, Arsenal, Everton and Man Utd and Palace just to name a few .

But then do we really need to spunk £15 million on one and never play our youngsters? We should just spend the money on strengthening the squad to push for the premier and worry about this so called academy at a later date because Gus will never play our talent unless it’s a cup game which he/we know we’ll never win.

The reason I ask is Gus is excited by our new academy being built but our youngsters haven’t a cat in hell of breaking into the first team. Ok Dunk has but only because of elphick and el-abd are injured otherwise Dunk would be like Jake forster caskey being left in the wilderness.

It get’s my back up when you see other teams bedding their youngsters into their first team, ok, 20 minutes here or there but it’s good experience but we don’t, ok dunk only as we’ve no defensive cover. What does it take for our youngsters to get a run out? All midfield injured or our entire first team going down with a bug.

Thoughts please?

I think you should eat less because, clearly, the digestive process is robbing your brain of blood and oxygen.

 

[Beach Hut]

Is the OP Kevin Keegan who closed the Newcastle Academy as soon as he became manager ?

 

[OSRGull]

I'm not sticking up for Palace but have they not also produced Scannel, Clyne and Williams?

So what have they proved YET? At the moment they're average Championship players.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Thoughts please?

I think you're really stupid

 

[Billy the Fish]

So having state of the art training facilities will attract top youngsters? Can see it now, I'll go to Brighton’s academy as the grass is nice and lush and has an ice bath unlike Arsenal where they have a top coach.

What with Chelsea Spurs and Arsenal making inroads into Sussex schools to tap up the local talent. Who would the youngster choose, us or them?

Bye Gus.

Yes. Gus has stated that if anyone wants to leave for a better club then the club won't stand in their way meaning they can go for peanuts, the only reason Gus said that is because he hopes a big club comes for him and and the club release him.

Think Gus should be.

Actually I've changed my mind, you are clearly someone's wind up account.

If not you should consider doing the gene pool a favour and seriously consider chemical castration.

 

[Mr Burns]

While eating lunch this afternoon I was pondering our new academy and thinking about some top young players coming of our new production line just like Southampton, Arsenal, Everton and Man Utd and Palace just to name a few .

But then do we really need to spunk £15 million on one and never play our youngsters? We should just spend the money on strengthening the squad to push for the premier and worry about this so called academy at a later date because Gus will never play our talent unless it’s a cup game which he/we know we’ll never win.

The reason I ask is Gus is excited by our new academy being built but our youngsters haven’t a cat in hell of breaking into the first team. Ok Dunk has but only because of elphick and el-abd are injured otherwise Dunk would be like Jake forster caskey being left in the wilderness.

It get’s my back up when you see other teams bedding their youngsters into their first team, ok, 20 minutes here or there but it’s good experience but we don’t, ok dunk only as we’ve no defensive cover. What does it take for our youngsters to get a run out? All midfield injured or our entire first team going down with a bug.

Thoughts please?

Thoughts? I would be disappointed and sadden if a true reasonable thinking Albion supporters come up with such shit?

Are you on a wind up, or just not very bright.

Ever thought they are not good enough? You can only mention one player, Jake Caskey. Hardly makes the new academy a waste of time. Ever thought part of the reason Caskey isn't getting a look in, is because he's alway on international duty. Ever thought its because he hasn't fully devleoped, and would probably get kicked to shit in the middle week in week out? For that matter, have you ever THOUGHT?

 

[El Presidente]

Thoughts? I would be disappointed and sadden if a true reasonable thinking Albion supporters come up with such shit?

Are you on a wind up, or just not very bright.

Ever thought they are not good enough? You can only mention one player, Jake Caskey. Hardly makes the new academy a waste of time. Ever thought part of the reason Caskey isn't getting a look in, is because he's alway on international duty. Ever thought its because he hasn't fully devleoped, and would probably get kicked to shit in the middle week in week out? For that matter, have you ever THOUGHT?

I'm with Burnsy

 

[Mr Burns]

While eating lunch this afternoon I was pondering our new academy and thinking about some top young players coming of our new production line just like Southampton, Arsenal, Everton and Man Utd and Palace just to name a few .

But then do we really need to spunk £15 million on one and never play our youngsters? We should just spend the money on strengthening the squad to push for the premier and worry about this so called academy at a later date because Gus will never play our talent unless it’s a cup game which he/we know we’ll never win.

The reason I ask is Gus is excited by our new academy being built but our youngsters haven’t a cat in hell of breaking into the first team. Ok Dunk has but only because of elphick and el-abd are injured otherwise Dunk would be like Jake forster caskey being left in the wilderness.

It get’s my back up when you see other teams bedding their youngsters into their first team, ok, 20 minutes here or there but it’s good experience but we don’t, ok dunk only as we’ve no defensive cover. What does it take for our youngsters to get a run out? All midfield injured or our entire first team going down with a bug.

Thoughts please?

The more I think about this thread, the more I think we may have the most retarded thread starter on the whole net. Could this be the most stupid thread ever started on NSC.

We have three youngsters at the moment, probably maybe good enough to get game time.

One is starting regualary at centre back, and has been linked with a move to a top top premiership side.

One is progressing well and is on loan to Bournemouth, and getting good game time, and maybe just maybe is 1st said player does get sold in January, 2nd player at Bournemouth may take his place in th squad/team as he proved he has something about him after his performance against Liverpool.

The final one is 17, very lightweight at the moment (Our 20 year old $1m player has just admitted having a growth spurt), and would get kicked to shit in a championship midfield if played week in week out, not to mention seems to be away on International duty every month will some England age group or other.

So Mr OP, who else is there. We have one Gus is playing and is being talked about a £5million move to the premiership. We have one playing on loan and getting rave reviews and very good game time, and we have one who is 17 and clearly, well clearly to someone whos not a complet retard, not phyiscally mature enough for championship football yet!

And on the back of this you are claiming the academy is a waste of money and we'd be spunking £15million quid!!!!

Now go and play in the sand pit with dog shit in it, with the other simpletons!

 

[CheeseRolls]

An interesting diversion maybe, but our youth products include a current premiership starter, who was released by the club without making an appearance, went to Wycombe before joining his current club. So one more credit for youth development, even if this one slipped through the net for the club.

 

[brunswick]

harley over caskey? paynter over adjiensten? the poster has a point.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Big belly total wind up merchant. How long before he gets banned from the Amex by Hebbard and starts a thread on it?

 

[Medwayseagull]

It is unfortunate NSC does not have a "name and shame" negative poster list. This OP would certainly be near the top along with a few other regulars.

 

[Commander]

While eating lunch this afternoon I was pondering our new academy and thinking about some top young players coming of our new production line just like Southampton, Arsenal, Everton and Man Utd and Palace just to name a few .

But then do we really need to spunk £15 million on one and never play our youngsters? We should just spend the money on strengthening the squad to push for the premier and worry about this so called academy at a later date because Gus will never play our talent unless it’s a cup game which he/we know we’ll never win.

The reason I ask is Gus is excited by our new academy being built but our youngsters haven’t a cat in hell of breaking into the first team. Ok Dunk has but only because of elphick and el-abd are injured otherwise Dunk would be like Jake forster caskey being left in the wilderness.

It get’s my back up when you see other teams bedding their youngsters into their first team, ok, 20 minutes here or there but it’s good experience but we don’t, ok dunk only as we’ve no defensive cover. What does it take for our youngsters to get a run out? All midfield injured or our entire first team going down with a bug.

Thoughts please?

Thoughts are its lucky you're not in charge of the club. If we want to really improve as a club and become a force in the Premier League, then we have to be able to produce top quality young players, and the academy will help us do this. Look at Southampton. Produce one Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott or Gareth Bale and the academy is paid for.

As for Gus not giving young players a chance, that is rubbish, just look at Dunk. How old is JFC? 16? 17? How many players play for the first team at that age? Not many, and unless they are real geniuses then they usually end up being ruined by it. Look at the way Alex Ferguson brings his youngsters through. Does he throw them in the first team at 16? No. Most don't come through until 18/19 at the earliest, and then they generally only play a bit part for the first couple of seasons. Gus is doing the right thing.

And apart from anything else, Gus isn't going to be here forever, so your argument that we shouldn't bother building an academy to produce young players to help secure our long term future as a top club because or current Manager wont play them is ridiculous.

 

[Commander]

It is unfortunate NSC does not have a "name and shame" negative poster list. This OP would certainly be near the top along with a few other regulars.

Bigbelly is someone's second account, but I don't know who's. It would be interesting to see whether it is a wind up account or whether the person who own it is just as idiotic in their first account.

El Pres, tell us who it is! The people demand to be told.

 

[The Large One]

So what have they proved YET? At the moment they're average Championship players.

As opposed to average League One players? Or Conference players? Or tiddly-winks players?

 

[Nibble]

we've spunked money on lots of totally unnecessary things over the past 3 years when we should have been learning to play football.