OFFICIAL: We are a soft touch as 300,000 Polish gyppo's on way to England...

[Spicy]

I was quoting from official statistics for 2002 so I am only believing what I read - which is a risky thng to do I know.

Brilliant thread though.

 

[Curious Orange]

Just a shame this country is a tad on the small side really. I always find it fascinating that two of the largest countries in the world, Canada and Australia, only have populations in the region of 20 million a piece (but then again quite substantial portions of both those countries are pretty much unihabitable).

I guess what I'm asking is is there an ideal population density, and is Britain's population density higher or lower than elsewhere? Where are we on the World League table of population density?

 

[Beach Hut]

Might be a tad out of date but a reasonable assesment:

1 Macau 20,824.38
2 Monaco 16,486.67
3 Hong Kong 6,571.14
4 Singapore 5,539.77
5 Gibraltar 4,486.92
6 Gaza Strip 3,090.71
7 Holy See 1,977.27
8 Bermuda 1,249.44
9 Malta 1,192.51
10 Bahrain 1,014.66
11 Maldives 1,000.73
12 Bangladesh 949.28
13 Jersey 773.46
14 Taiwan 685.47
15 Mauritius 639.03
16 Barbados 602.77
17 Nauru 505.00
18 Korea, South 477.49
19 Netherlands 466.45
20 Puerto Rico 433.94
21 San Marino 417.68
22 Tuvalu 407.23
23 Mayotte 398.23
24 Martinique 388.24
25 Marshall Islands 361.32
26 Aruba 355.83
27 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 354.47
28 Lebanon 348.26
29 Virgin Islands 343.34
30 Guernsey 337.04
31 Belgium 336.82
32 Japan 336.72
33 India 336.62
34 Rwanda 326.85
35 American Samoa 320.53
36 Sri Lanka 295.72
37 Reunion 287.09
38 West Bank 285.66
39 Grenada 285.32
40 Israel 282.82
41 El Salvador 281.81
42 Guam 280.28
43 Philippines 266.11
44 Comoros 259.32
45 Saint Lucia 252.49
46 Haiti 249.79
47 Guadeloupe 246.74
48 Jamaica 244.92
49 United Kingdom 244.69
50 Vietnam 237.62
51 Germany 234.86
52 Cyprus - Turkish Sector 224.76
53 Burundi 223.62
54 Netherlands Antilles 216.49
55 Trinidad and Tobago 214.83
56 Liechtenstein 200.36
57 Italy 192.96
58 Micronesia, Federated States of 187.32
59 Switzerland 182.94
60 Nepal 177.65
61 Korea, North 177.61
62 Pakistan 177.37
63 Seychelles 173.99
64 Dominican Republic 168.04
65 Luxembourg 165.92
66 Saint Kitts and Nevis 159.25
67 Sao Tome and Principe 154.88
68 Tonga 151.92
69 Cayman Islands 151.29
70 Tokelau 147.10
71 Andorra 146.53
72 Antigua and Barbuda 146.01
73 Northern Mariana Islands 145.49
74 China 133.69
75 Moldova 133.67
76 Gambia, The 133.63
77 Czech Republic 130.72
78 Man, Isle of 128.72
79 Montserrat 128.53
80 British Virgin Islands 127.71
81 Poland 126.79
82 Anguilla 126.48
83 Denmark 126.36
84 Nigeria 124.98
85 Albania 122.79
86 Armenia 120.04
87 Kiribati 119.25
88 Thailand 118.43
89 Indonesia 118.32
90 Uganda 114.19
91 Guatemala 113.77
92 Kuwait 111.73
93 Slovakia 110.58
94 Hungary 110.31
95 France 108.09
96 Portugal 107.86
97 Malawi 106.30
98 Serbia 103.06
99 Cape Verde 100.68
100 Cuba 100.09
101 Austria 98.37
102 Slovenia 97.28
103 Romania 96.96
104 Syria 93.53
105 Togo 93.43
106 Azerbaijan 91.85
107 Dominica 86.51
108 Turkey 85.11
109 Cook Islands 84.17
110 Croatia 82.91
111 Ukraine 82.51
112 Ghana 82.11
113 Greece 81.86
114 Cyprus 81.61
115 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 81.37
116 Samoa 80.69
117 Spain 78.43
118 Bulgaria 74.13
119 Sierra Leone 73.95
120 Burma 73.10
121 Georgia 72.69
122 Costa Rica 72.53
123 Lesotho 70.15
124 Bosnia and Herzegovina 67.97
125 Egypt 67.58
126 Morocco 66.46
127 French Polynesia 66.14
128 Cambodia 65.87
129 Malaysia 65.06
130 Qatar 63.26
131 Brunei 61.29
132 Tunisia 61.24
133 Swaziland 57.29
134 Benin 57.00
135 Uzbekistan 56.66
136 Wallis and Futuna 55.22
137 Norfolk Island 55.06
138 Lithuania 54.98
139 Honduras 53.60
140 Ethiopia 53.30
141 Ireland 52.74
142 Senegal 52.35
143 Mexico 52.15
144 Iraq 51.90
145 Jordan 51.32
146 Kenya 50.61
147 Belarus 50.10
148 Cote d'Ivoire 49.74
149 Cocos 45.43
150 Ecuador 45.38
151 Fiji 44.49
152 Guinea-Bissau 44.09
153 Tajikistan 42.77
154 Burkina Faso 42.28
155 Bhutan 41.53
156 Palau 40.32
157 Afghanistan 39.88
158 Iran 39.84
159 Nicaragua 39.23
160 Turks and Caicos Islands 39.22
161 Colombia 37.84
162 Panama 36.56
163 Latvia 36.44
164 South Africa 35.60
165 Tanzania 35.29
166 Cameroon 32.92
167 Eritrea 32.84
168 Estonia 32.60
169 Yemen 32.09
170 Guinea 30.66
171 Liberia 30.35
172 United States 29.77
173 Faroe Islands 29.35
174 Zimbabwe 28.87
175 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 28.79
176 United Arab Emirates 28.29
177 Bahamas, The 28.17
178 Venezuela 26.31
179 Madagascar 25.58
180 Mozambique 24.39
181 Kyrgyzstan 23.76
182 Laos 23.43
183 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 22.26
184 Sweden 21.69
185 Peru 20.80
186 Djibouti 20.36
187 Brazil 20.32
188 Chile 20.00
189 Uruguay 19.06
190 Christmas Island 17.58
191 Saint Helena 17.43
192 Finland 16.89
193 Equatorial Guinea 16.60
194 Solomon Islands 16.54
195 Sudan 14.51
196 World 14.42
197 Norway 14.42
198 Paraguay 13.68
199 New Zealand 13.63
200 Argentina 13.42
201 Algeria 13.07
202 Zambia 13.05
203 Vanuatu 12.81
204 Oman 11.52
205 Somalia 11.38
206 Saudi Arabia 10.97
207 New Caledonia 10.63
208 Papua New Guinea 10.39
209 Belize 10.34
210 Angola 8.97
211 Turkmenistan 8.95
212 Russia 8.61
213 Mali 8.55
214 Niue 8.09
215 Congo, Republic of the 7.96
216 Niger 7.86
217 Bolivia 7.36
218 Montenegro 6.66
219 Kazakhstan 6.30
220 Chad 6.00
221 Central African Republic 5.53
222 Gabon 4.76
223 Guyana 3.58
224 Canada 3.36
225 Libya 2.84
226 Iceland 2.72
227 Suriname 2.67
228 Mauritania 2.51
229 Botswana 2.50
230 Australia 2.47
231 Namibia 2.00
232 French Guiana 1.88
233 Mongolia 1.67
234 Pitcairn Islands 1.04
235 Western Sahara .90
236 Falkland Islands .23
237 Svalbard .04
238 Greenland .03
239 Antarctica .00
239 Ashmore and Cartier Islands .00
239 Baker Island .00
239 Bassas da India .00
239 Bouvet Island .00
239 British Indian Ocean Territory .00
239 Clipperton Island .00
239 Coral Sea Islands .00
239 Europa Island .00
239 French Southern and Antarctic Lands .00
239 Glorioso Islands .00
239 Heard Island and McDonald Islands .00
239 Howland Island .00
239 Jan Mayen .00
239 Jarvis Island .00
239 Johnston Atoll .00
239 Juan de Nova Island .00
239 Kingman Reef .00
239 Midway Islands .00
239 Navassa Island .00
239 Palmyra Atoll .00
239 South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands .00
239 Spratly Islands .00
239 Tromelin Island .00
239 Wake Atoll .00
NA Arctic Ocean NA
NA Atlantic Ocean NA
NA Indian Ocean NA
NA Pacific Ocean NA
NA Paracel Islands NA

 

[Spicy]

I looked it up as well under "Population density of the UK", but I am too tired to work it all out. Good point though made by Curious Orange.

 

[US Seagull]

Might be a tad out of date but a reasonable assesment:

49 United Kingdom 244.69

But what is the unit here? People per square mile? Kilometer? Your data's no good if we don't know the units!!

 

[Beach Hut]

But what is the unit here? People per square mile? Kilometer? Your data's no good if we don't know the units!!

Persons per sq km

 

[US Seagull]

1 Macau 20,824.38

Wow, 20,824 people per sq km. That's got to be standing room only! Hope they have good personal hygiene habits.

 

[Yorkie]

I am sure if you lived in Dover or in London you would have a different view of immigrants coming into the UK.

I live in a predominantly Asian area of Huddersfield.

Here a lot of Asians marry people back in the original country so they can bring them back and also have a lot higher birth rate.

I had two children. My next door neighbour but one who is Pakistani in origin already has 5 children.

I still see him working hard and paying taxes. I get on very well with my neighbours.

So I don't have a different viewpoint Spicy.

 

[Beach Hut]

I spent five years in Birmingham working with mainly Asian people and they were very pleasant and hard a very good work ethic.

 

[Dover]

Please rember where I originally come from when reading my reply.

Dover is a very different palce to the one I left. If anyone wants a good example, London Road has more variety and shops than all of Dover.

However, Puskas once cried on a ferry comming to Dover in 1953. he would be now the age of my grandad.

Those Cliffs represented freedom. Most of his generation have passed this on to their families, and so on. Therefore many cities have enjoyed the diversity of thier world neighbours comming to thier doorstep. Examples being Leeds and the Polish community. East London and it's Asiatic community, just to name two.

The town where I originally come from has it's problems primarily because over the last twenty years manufaturing and other forms of work have moved away. But it has been widly spread in certain parts of the media that all is not well. I am not going to disguise the fact it is not.

During the latter half of the ninties the biggest problem in the town was by bootlegers. During that time shootings were a regular part of life. Some of the press however decided to slant this on the recent immigrant population.

I am not saying that everyone comming to Britian is as good as gold, my own cousin was slashed at the fairground some three years ago by Kosovans. He was trying to chat up one of thier sisters, they did not like it. There are however an awful lot of people who have come to Britain to improve not only their own, but the fortunes of others.

My main part of this post, is to say that we live in a multicultral society. One that has opened my own eyes, and changed my opinions.

 

[Spicy]

I work in a large multi cultural office and with the exception of one, or maybe two, have found that all people I work with are brilliant. This thread is about mass immigration though, not how well people living here have integrated into society. I am certainly not a racist and have friends of all nationalities.