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[TV] O/T Beginning of Afghanistan War
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KeegansHairPiece
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- Jan 28, 2016
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Amazing your empathy disappears if the poor souls are in an inflatable dinghy.
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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British foreign secretary Dominic Raab called the Taliban takeover “a new reality”.
“We’re making it clear with our partners with all the means at our disposal, that we will hold the Taliban to account, to its commitments, to have a new start in Afghanistan,” he said.
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“We’re making it clear with our partners with all the means at our disposal, that we will hold the Taliban to account, to its commitments, to have a new start in Afghanistan,” he said.
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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the only people to blame are the now previous Afgan government who apparently couldn't really govern or control thier military. no point blaming US and UK for a planned withdrawal thats been accelerated due to their armed forces giving up. as of right now we're leaving peacefully, so technically mission accomplished. just the wrong group left behind in power.
other thing that article talks about is the Taliban's approach to governance. they've had 20 years to think about how they'd do that, they might be more moderate than before. not what we'd like, but if most the locals arent that fussed, what exactly are we to do? we've been told for half a century not to be imperialists, cant start demanding imperialist control now.
Baldseagull
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The history is important when the argument for leaving Aghanistan to it, is that it isn't our problem, and that is the major point I was trying and failing to make.
Baker lite
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The poor souls are in genuine fear of the their lives, they are desperate to escape from a seventh century bunch of savages.
The criminals arriving by dinghy on the shores of Kent are piss taking chancers crossing from a safe country, France.
Stop being so silly and go and eat some humus.
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Neville's Breakfast
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I think we agree then
I think we shouldn’t pull out troops unless viable alternatives in place.
KeegansHairPiece
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- Jan 28, 2016
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I don’t really eat compost, although you do talk a lot of shit.
Biden has the power to over turn this, he over turned enough shit agreements Trump brought in.
Absolute mess.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Pass me the sick bucket
Biden explains the withdrawal from Afghanistan
On R5 now, live.
I can't really argue with him. What is to be gained by creating a puppet state, gifted equipment, training and a bespoke political system, who when left to defend their country against the zealots simply run away?
I assume this now formally ends the idea of America as the 'world policeman'. Removing heads of state for being hostile to America (the conceit). A policeman with as much idea as the nobs who fitted up the Birmingham six, and hob nobbed with Kenneth Noye. World policeman....my arse.
China, with little concern for human rights abuses (Afghani women in this case) has already stepped in.
Damned if you do, but I see that Biden has little choice. 'Not in our national security interest; not what our troops deserve'.
A pity they didn't realise the same after Korea. And Vietnam. Flat track bullies......
The alt right are already after Biden, albeit Trump planned the withdrawal to have happened back in May.
On R5 now, live.
I can't really argue with him. What is to be gained by creating a puppet state, gifted equipment, training and a bespoke political system, who when left to defend their country against the zealots simply run away?
I assume this now formally ends the idea of America as the 'world policeman'. Removing heads of state for being hostile to America (the conceit). A policeman with as much idea as the nobs who fitted up the Birmingham six, and hob nobbed with Kenneth Noye. World policeman....my arse.
China, with little concern for human rights abuses (Afghani women in this case) has already stepped in.
Damned if you do, but I see that Biden has little choice. 'Not in our national security interest; not what our troops deserve'.
A pity they didn't realise the same after Korea. And Vietnam. Flat track bullies......
The alt right are already after Biden, albeit Trump planned the withdrawal to have happened back in May.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
I pretty much agree with Biden.
It should have ended with Bin Laden.
The mission creep beyond that lead to today.
It should have ended with Bin Laden.
The mission creep beyond that lead to today.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Bin laden went to Pakistan in 2002….personally tonight was all about America first second third and forth,,,I thought it was Trump speaking
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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His arguments were convincing.
Horrendous decision to have to make, but can't honestly say i'd have done the opposite were I in his shoes.
Horrendous decision to have to make, but can't honestly say i'd have done the opposite were I in his shoes.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
I thought the guy on after Biden was making some very valid points….anyway right now it must be a very scary place to live and my concern would be for ordinary men women and children…particularly the latter two
The_Viper
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New boss same as old boss, very little has changed behind the scenes, now we just have a dickhead doing what he's doing quietly and with less scrutiny as opposed to doing it like an utter psychopath like Trump was.
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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"There is no chance one more year, five more years or 20 more years of American boots on the ground would make any difference.
It is wrong to ask American troops when Afghanistan’s would not.”
Biden
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It is wrong to ask American troops when Afghanistan’s would not.”
Biden
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LamieRobertson
Not awoke
He ran for the job he wanted those shoes…history will be the judge of his decision
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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He did, but whoever had the job would have had to have made a decision one way or another