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Ex Shelton Seagull
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Don't West Sussex County Council oppose Falmer, even though it's nothing to do with them?
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Its worth keeping in mind that in order for any alternative site to be considered, it has to be proved to be superior to Falmer. Not just "possibly viable", but superior. The fact that Pende has no railway station nearby ALREADY makes it patently inferior to Falmer, before you even start to consider all the other complications in building a stadium there.
If the NIMBYS stand up and say "Pende", then the Albions lawyer can just stand up and say "no rail link", and thats the end of that thankyouverymuch.
Next.
If the NIMBYS stand up and say "Pende", then the Albions lawyer can just stand up and say "no rail link", and thats the end of that thankyouverymuch.
Next.
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Easy 10 said:
And "Not in Brighton & Hove."
Zeitgeist
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34064 Fighter Command said:
Some years ago during the Gillingham years, myself and two others had an in depth converstaion with Barry Lloyd at Woodside Road. He mentioned the regime of his times plans for the development of Beeding cement works and how things were getting to an advanced stage until Archer sabataged the plans. He also mentioned that the so called "Pende" site had been looked at. He said EXACTLY the same thing: That this site (or should it be sight?) was prone to flooding and was therefore a non starter.
I have a mental image of Percy with his mop and bucket frantically trying to dry out the pitch at pende!
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Publius Ovidius
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I have a mental image of Percy being set upon by a rabid group of NIMBY's when they realise he has been leading them on with the biggest con since Archer tried to change the Articles of Association
London Calling
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Zeitgeist said:
Even if we could build there.
No insurance company would support it!
You can see the headlines.
"Brighton's Pende arena becomes duck pond as tidal waters washes the Perseus stand away"
LC
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34064 Fighter Command
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Check out the Environment Agency's own recently launched flood map website for Shoreham Airport :
http://maps.environment-agency.gov.uk/wiyby/mapController
http://maps.environment-agency.gov.uk/wiyby/mapController
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Looks a bit soggy, despite the flood defences along the coast.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Waterworld II is scheduled to start shooting there in the Spring. I saw Kevin Costner in the Red Lion on Sunday. He told me.
Bit of a red herring, tho'.
Look at the "Learn more" bit.
"The location you have selected is in an area that has a moderate chance of flooding. The chance of flooding each year is 1.3% (1 in 75) or less, but greater than 0.5% (1 in 200)."
So it might flood once or twice in the lifetime of a stadium. Not a big risk.
.... but why am I continuing this thread? Let's let it drop shall we?
FALMER or BUST is the only choice, I'm afraid.
Look at the "Learn more" bit.
"The location you have selected is in an area that has a moderate chance of flooding. The chance of flooding each year is 1.3% (1 in 75) or less, but greater than 0.5% (1 in 200)."
So it might flood once or twice in the lifetime of a stadium. Not a big risk.
.... but why am I continuing this thread? Let's let it drop shall we?
FALMER or BUST is the only choice, I'm afraid.
The Large One
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That plus most of the stuff posted by Perseus on page 6 was pure crap. He just sits there at his computer, having fantasies about forming relationships with lesser-spotted halibuts - then comes on here and writes the first thing he thinks of, whether it makes sense or not.
So Archer could not build a supermarket at Pende. What's that gotta do with football?
Opportunity or problem?
The plan would be to drain the surplus water of into a pond (like a larger version of Brooklands in Worthing). This would be the community plan giving the public a landscaped open space and community area. This is the Planning Gain to get public support to avoid the need for a Public Inquiry. The mighty River Adur is not quite so prone to flooding as the piddly River Severn.
This is design is to set the prestige stadium in a Country Park area along the lines of top class international venues like Munich.
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Pende.htm
Instead of a Public Inquiry, I would anticipate Adur Council would go for a Scrutiny Committee meeting.
Addenda:
Adur Council will refuse Planning Permission for a new airport runway and they will succeed in stopping it if the proponents appealed. Brighton & Hove Council have a report on the future of Shoreham Airport that excludes the possibility of an extended runway. There is not enough space to comply with safety regulations and to cater for the aircraft needed to justify the huge cost. There is no way around this.
Moving out of Withdean. The Pende plan envisages relocation of Lancing Football Club (and Sussex FA HQ). This would be the shared reserve ground and training and athletics arena which could conceivably be constructed before a major stadium. The major part of the cost of this is envisaged to be recouped by selling the current town centre site for Lancing club and offices for housing. This I would have thought was a good idea before the stand falls down completely of its own accord. This would be better than Withdean. Temporary seating could be installed in the period before the construction of the stadium proper. I wouldn't mind if they rearranged one of the piles of earth into a huge chicken run, but I expect this would not go down so well nowadays.
Advantages:
Local advantages include employment opportunities, creation of a dedicated open space instead of a benign trespass area, and a Sustrans link (yellow lines on the map) between Lancing and Shoreham, which on match days would be a dedicated priority bus route to encourage (not compel) people to attend the games by public transport. There would be no park and ride, because an area of public open space would be used for parking on match days. (There will, of course, be the usual snarl up as the cars try to get out.)
The Albion advantages would be a bigger stadium (needed to justify the railway station), and the ancillary development which would offshot the cost of the stadium, so it will not cost a penny extra than the sporting and other grants (well that is the plan). Also, Albion will get the car parking income.
It would cheaper, bigger and better.
With access roads running at £2million+ a kilometre, should not be sneezed at the cost, but we would have to pay for the new junctions at Falmer and dump some money towards Brighton University. The accountants can cost account and compare.
PS: The Stategic Gap concept is not worth a wank, not underpinned by legislation and everybody knows it.
Opportunity or problem?
The plan would be to drain the surplus water of into a pond (like a larger version of Brooklands in Worthing). This would be the community plan giving the public a landscaped open space and community area. This is the Planning Gain to get public support to avoid the need for a Public Inquiry. The mighty River Adur is not quite so prone to flooding as the piddly River Severn.
This is design is to set the prestige stadium in a Country Park area along the lines of top class international venues like Munich.
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Pende.htm
Instead of a Public Inquiry, I would anticipate Adur Council would go for a Scrutiny Committee meeting.
Addenda:
Adur Council will refuse Planning Permission for a new airport runway and they will succeed in stopping it if the proponents appealed. Brighton & Hove Council have a report on the future of Shoreham Airport that excludes the possibility of an extended runway. There is not enough space to comply with safety regulations and to cater for the aircraft needed to justify the huge cost. There is no way around this.
Moving out of Withdean. The Pende plan envisages relocation of Lancing Football Club (and Sussex FA HQ). This would be the shared reserve ground and training and athletics arena which could conceivably be constructed before a major stadium. The major part of the cost of this is envisaged to be recouped by selling the current town centre site for Lancing club and offices for housing. This I would have thought was a good idea before the stand falls down completely of its own accord. This would be better than Withdean. Temporary seating could be installed in the period before the construction of the stadium proper. I wouldn't mind if they rearranged one of the piles of earth into a huge chicken run, but I expect this would not go down so well nowadays.
Advantages:
Local advantages include employment opportunities, creation of a dedicated open space instead of a benign trespass area, and a Sustrans link (yellow lines on the map) between Lancing and Shoreham, which on match days would be a dedicated priority bus route to encourage (not compel) people to attend the games by public transport. There would be no park and ride, because an area of public open space would be used for parking on match days. (There will, of course, be the usual snarl up as the cars try to get out.)
The Albion advantages would be a bigger stadium (needed to justify the railway station), and the ancillary development which would offshot the cost of the stadium, so it will not cost a penny extra than the sporting and other grants (well that is the plan). Also, Albion will get the car parking income.
It would cheaper, bigger and better.
With access roads running at £2million+ a kilometre, should not be sneezed at the cost, but we would have to pay for the new junctions at Falmer and dump some money towards Brighton University. The accountants can cost account and compare.
PS: The Stategic Gap concept is not worth a wank, not underpinned by legislation and everybody knows it.
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The Large One
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The man is completely f***ing mad.
FFS, mods, ban him.
FFS, mods, ban him.
BensGrandad
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The Large One said:
I do not agree with him that Pende is the best available site but it sounds as if you are losing it. If all else fails and you do not have an arguement insult writer personally.
Zeitgeist
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Oh FFS!!! :thud: :thud: :thud: Yep, Percy that's a blinder. Open the sluice gates 2 hours before every home game. That should dry things out eh? You really are barmy!
You really are barmy!
southwickseagull
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Is this bloke an idiot or what! All His arguements are ridiculous. A lake now at Pende, why not a swimming pool instead (there's plenty of water). Relocate Lancing FC and Sussex FA HQ, They'll be r eally pleased.
Rangdo
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BensGrandad said:
But he has got an argument. He's laid it out clearly over the past god knows how many posts. It's just that perseus isn't interested in discussing it. He just keeps churning out pre-prepared drivel over and over again.
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