[Brighton] New Churchill Square vaccination centre opens today....and closes due to protesters

[Neville's Breakfast]

How do you block people? Never found the need before but my piss is starting to boil.


(Sent from my tablet in an isolation ward in the adult cystic fibrosis ward at King's College Hospital being looked after by respiratory medicine specialists who have been dealing with this shit and the deaths of vulnerable patients and colleagues for over a year now)

Best wishes with your treatment. Take comfort that for every tosser like that fella there are thousands of normal, caring people who wish you and the medical professionals around you all the very best.

 

[Weststander]

Yes they are effectively being forced to take the jab in some circumstances, if they work in a Nursing Home for example. The consequences should be for them to decide on health grounds not because of societal pressure to conform. Do you think that we should now make it compulsory in future to have the flu jab, measils (much more deadly than covid for the young) or for meningitis? if not, what criterion would you use to make a jab mandatory?

The residents of nursing homes are clinically vulnerable, their wellbeing must come first, the nursing home exists for them.

If a member of staff is anti-vax, there are other opportunities to be a nurse, NA or chef elsewhere.

 

[Matt Penfold]

By children I meant the under 12s - your right the short term trials did cover the cohort above that age. Once the stage 3 trials have been completed, yes then the efficacy in children can be reviewed but it would be wrong in my view to inject them before then. As regards ethics, If people have religous objections to the vaccine I wouold argue that these are ethical ones. We might not agree to their ethical framework but I think they should be respected. Also, some strict vegans might have objections on the grounds that vaccine has been used by using Monkeys in their development.

So why did you not specify you meant under 12s? Your failure to specify you meant under 12s is your fault and does not mean you were not being dishonest.

And if you want to argue religious objections are medical ethics objections, do so.

 

[Matt Penfold]

Yes they are effectively being forced to take the jab in some circumstances, if they work in a Nursing Home for example. The consequences should be for them to decide on health grounds not because of societal pressure to conform. Do you think that we should now make it compulsory in future to have the flu jab, measils (much more deadly than covid for the young) or for meningitis? if not, what criterion would you use to make a jab mandatory?

You are confusing the consequences of choosing not to be vaccinated with being forced to be vaccinated. How did you come to make that mistake?

And you seem to be unaware that to be accepted into nurse training programs in the UK you have to demonstrate you have had specified vaccines. You will also be required to have blood tests to check your immunity levels and have booster vaccines if those levels are not adequate.

Why do you want people to have the freedom to infect, and harm and kill others? What has happened to you to make you think that is what is important?

 

[pastafarian]

I blame the social media phenomenon. I've seen so much bs about the vaccine, including glowing arms after the innoculation, to tracking chips, it's laughable. For the record, im politically to the left of Lenin, and have smoked weed daily since 79.

Glowing arms would have been friggin awesome back in the early rave days

Global chipping and glowing arms are probably bs- .

I love you are keeping open minded about glowing arms
I might get back on the Ready Brek

Could be party central if the covid conditions are right

 

[GT49er]

Yes they are effectively being forced to take the jab in some circumstances, if they work in a Nursing Home for example. The consequences should be for them to decide on health grounds not because of societal pressure to conform. Do you think that we should now make it compulsory in future to have the flu jab, measils (much more deadly than covid for the young) or for meningitis? if not, what criterion would you use to make a jab mandatory?

If you want to go on holiday to some parts of the world you may be forced to have a vaccination of one kind or another, and have the certificate(s) to prove it. Of course, nobody is forced to have the vaccination - they just won't let you in. This doesn't affect your freedom of choice - you are free to choose not to go on holiday anywhere you choose.

And of course, if you are visiting some parts of the world, there are diseases you'd be bloody stupid not to get vaccinated against! Yellow fever - what a laugh! Rabies? - why, that might even get anti-vaxxers frothing at the mouth!

 

[Stato]

Yes they are effectively being forced to take the jab in some circumstances, if they work in a Nursing Home for example. The consequences should be for them to decide on health grounds not because of societal pressure to conform. Do you think that we should now make it compulsory in future to have the flu jab, measils (much more deadly than covid for the young) or for meningitis? if not, what criterion would you use to make a jab mandatory?

What do you think of our chances of a top ten finish this season? I ask because as far as I can see, you don't seem to have ever posted anything about football in general or the Albion in particular on this Albion football forum. That's your prerogative of course, but I do wonder why we have been lucky enough to be selected as the audience for your political views.

 

[Weststander]

Glowing arms would have been friggin awesome back in the early rave days




I love you are keeping open minded about glowing arms
I might get back on the Ready Brek

Could be party central if the covid conditions are right

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[fork me]

Also are you saying that people should have no right to protest?

The right to protest doesn't give you the right to stop someone else having a medical treatment. That's what people are complaining about here.

 

[Garage_Doors]

Anarchist.

Wouldn't be great if you could get this word into a song.

 

[Taybha]

How do you block people? Never found the need before but my piss is starting to boil.


(Sent from my tablet in an isolation ward in the adult cystic fibrosis ward at King's College Hospital being looked after by respiratory medicine specialists who have been dealing with this shit and the deaths of vulnerable patients and colleagues for over a year now)

Sorry to hear your having a bad time of it, speedy recovery old chum.

 

[BenGarfield]

So what would you say to someone who is loved one died from COVID-19 whilst in a home because it was brought in by someone who wasn’t vaccinated and chose not to be?
If you work in such an environment you gave a duty of care to those under your care.


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The MRNA vaccines are not designed to prevent transmission. They are to alleviate the symptoms of severe disease. If you believe in asymptomatic transmission, the justification for the use of masks, then it would make no difference whether the care worker was vaccinated or unvaccinated. In fact you could argue that the vaccinated people are more dangerous because they dont display symptoms so easily so could come into work ill. Triple vaxed people have been infecting each other in great numbers in highly vaxed coutries such as Iceland, and Israel for example.

 

[BenGarfield]

The right to protest doesn't give you the right to stop someone else having a medical treatment. That's what people are complaining about here.

I agree. I dont know the full details of the Churchill Square protest. Did the protesters actually block people attending or did securtiy shut the centre down as a reaction?

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

The MRNA vaccines are not designed to prevent transmission. They are to alleviate the symptoms of severe disease. If you believe in asymptomatic transmission, the justification for the use of masks, then it would make no difference whether the care worker was vaccinated or unvaccinated. In fact you could argue that the vaccinated people are more dangerous because they dont display symptoms so easily so could come into work ill. Triple vaxed people have been infecting each other in great numbers in highly vaxed coutries such as Iceland, and Israel for example.

Utter shit. The vaccines have an efficacy of 70% plus ( closer to 90%) which means you are at least 70% less likely to catch it, so greatly reduces the chance of passing it on. You absolute shyster.


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[Deportivo Seagull]

I agree. I dont know the full details of the Churchill Square protest. Did the protesters actually block people attending or did securtiy shut the centre down as a reaction?

They set off a flare inside the centre which caused it to be closed. So in answer yes they did the cretins.


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[BenGarfield]

What do you think of our chances of a top ten finish this season? I ask because as far as I can see, you don't seem to have ever posted anything about football in general or the Albion in particular on this Albion football forum. That's your prerogative of course, but I do wonder why we have been lucky enough to be selected as the audience for your political views.

I am a very long-time fan of the Albion but I find the political debates more interesting to get involved with than the football ones which despite what Bill Shankley said are not ultimately more important than life or death. Health policy, macro ecomomics, and geo politics, do fall into that category. Oh and no Im not sure we`ll make the top 10 unless we can score more goals.

 

[birthofanorange]

All this reminds me of that documentary about Flat Earthers, where, no matter what evidence they were shown (even one they spent thousands on to prove 'they' were right, yet blamed the machine when it didn't back up their claims), steadfastly refused to accept the reality.
Odd bunch, really.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

The MRNA vaccines are not designed to prevent transmission. They are to alleviate the symptoms of severe disease. If you believe in asymptomatic transmission, the justification for the use of masks, then it would make no difference whether the care worker was vaccinated or unvaccinated. In fact you could argue that the vaccinated people are more dangerous because they dont display symptoms so easily so could come into work ill. Triple vaxed people have been infecting each other in great numbers in highly vaxed coutries such as Iceland, and Israel for example.

You are a liar. You are probing for credulity and not finding it. Piss off back to Twitter. I have reported your post.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...-can-cut-household-transmission-by-up-to-half

 

[GT49er]

You are a liar. You are probing for credulity and not finding it. Piss off back to Twitter. I have reported your post.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...-can-cut-household-transmission-by-up-to-half

Yep, bound for the bear-pit soon, I guess, with idiots like this posting.


Bit disrespectful to bears though ..........................................

 

[Stato]

I am a very long-time fan of the Albion but I find the political debates more interesting to get involved with than the football ones which despite what Bill Shankley said are not ultimately more important than life or death. Health policy, macro ecomomics, and geo politics, do fall into that category. Oh and no Im not sure we`ll make the top 10 unless we can score more goals.

I'm not convinced that you're much of a football fan, or much of a socialist to be honest. Either would know how to spell Shankly.