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Morrissey and the Falklands



Manx Shearwater

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Jun 28, 2011
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Brighton
Once an enormous smug ill-informed cock, always an enormous smug ill-informed cock.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
52,117
Goldstone
At some point, maybe they should go to Argentina, we're not an empire any more, and it's geographical lunacy for us to hold on to them.
The Falklands have never been a part of Argentina. People live on the islands, do they not get a say? Do you think that every island in the world should be given to the country closest to it? (that's going to be a lot of gifts)
 




Feb 23, 2009
23,990
Brighton factually.....

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e77

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May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
Some artists can blend music and politics.

Mozza is not one of them.
 






TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
10,840
Brighton
Knobhead. Notice he hasn't got a t-shirt on because he doesn't want to ruin his look.

Gonna have a hard time playing gigs back here after that I reckon.
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,146
On NSC for over two decades...
At some point, maybe they should go to Argentina, we're not an empire any more, and it's geographical lunacy for us to hold on to them. As we know, this was being discussed shortly before the war. However, the moment British troops died there things became a lot more complicated, and I can't see this happening for a good while yet.

I do hope you are fishing with that comment. The only country that has prior claim to the Falklands is Spain, and I'm guessing that the people who actually live on the Islands might like some say in who, if indeed anyone, they are affiliated with.
 






Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
11,033
The Falklands have never been a part of Argentina. People live on the islands, do they not get a say? Do you think that every island in the world should be given to the country closest to it? (that's going to be a lot of gifts)

I don't think that's a bad rule of thumb to be honest, although clearly there are other issues. They have had a say, wouldn't you agree? But if the Isle of Wight was 'owned' by Brazil from some disputed claim going back to the early 19rth century, would you not see at least a case, geographic, economic, other financial, for it being part of the UK?

As far as I can see the Islanders could stay in their home, but under a different flag, or be offered the opportunity to come to Britain, if they wanted to leave. I very much doubt we have the military force to wage another war like that anyway with other commitments, so you could argue our bargaining position is weaker.

We 're-claimed' the Falklands in 1833, before which there were Fremch, Spanish and Argentine settlements there. The world is a different place now, and only a fool would not recognise that. But as I said earlier, the casualties of the war are going to make any handover difficult, and even impossible.
 


brakespear

Doctor Worm
Feb 24, 2009
12,326
Sleeping on the roof
Another cock of a popstar/celebrity full of his own self importance with ideas above his station

this - it's beginning to dawn on him I think that very few people care much about his views in general any more so he has to come up with ever more ludicrous attempts to bargepole his way back into the public eye.
 




Driver8

On the road...
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Jul 31, 2005
16,143
North Wales
The Falklands have never been a part of Argentina. People live on the islands, do they not get a say? Do you think that every island in the world should be given to the country closest to it? (that's going to be a lot of gifts)

So we would get given to France? Not a bad idea that. Escargot anyone?
 








Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
61,763
The Fatherland
Gonna have a hard time playing gigs back here after that I reckon.

I very much doubt it. Whatever you think of these comments he has said worse, and has a very very loyal fanbase in the UK. If anything this little episide is business as usual with Mozzer.
 




DJ Leon

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Aug 30, 2003
3,446
Hassocks
I don't think that's a bad rule of thumb to be honest, although clearly there are other issues. They have had a say, wouldn't you agree? But if the Isle of Wight was 'owned' by Brazil from some disputed claim going back to the early 19rth century, would you not see at least a case, geographic, economic, other financial, for it being part of the UK?

As far as I can see the Islanders could stay in their home, but under a different flag, or be offered the opportunity to come to Britain, if they wanted to leave. I very much doubt we have the military force to wage another war like that anyway with other commitments, so you could argue our bargaining position is weaker.

We 're-claimed' the Falklands in 1833, before which there were Fremch, Spanish and Argentine settlements there. The world is a different place now, and only a fool would not recognise that. But as I said earlier, the casualties of the war are going to make any handover difficult, and even impossible.

A reasonable response. It is surely a valid question to ask what makes these islands British? The same old argument that its inhabitants want to be British doesn't entirely convince me. They're not represented in parliament, they pay no taxes to us and they don't adhere to our laws. They do however cost us (dearly) in terms of their defence. Whilst I'm not for a second suggesting that Argentina have a valid cliam on the islands, I do think that we should, in a modern world, start to think about how we justify these Overseas Territories.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,761
Surrey
I don't think that's a bad rule of thumb to be honest, although clearly there are other issues. They have had a say, wouldn't you agree? But if the Isle of Wight was 'owned' by Brazil from some disputed claim going back to the early 19rth century, would you not see at least a case, geographic, economic, other financial, for it being part of the UK?
The two major differences are:
a) The Falklands have never belonged to Argentina.
b) the IoW is about 5 miles off the coast of Portsmouth at the bottom of Southampton Water whereas the Falklands are 430 miles off the coast of Argentina.
 




DJ Leon

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Aug 30, 2003
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I very much doubt it. Whatever you think of these comments he has said worse, and has a very very loyal fanbase in the UK. If anything this little episide is business as usual with Mozzer.

Quite, he has always said precisely what he believes. If you think he's doing this for publicity you're wrong, he's doing exactly what he's done for the last 25 years.
 


essbee

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Jan 5, 2005
3,656
used to quite like the bloke - but this changes things. What a knob of the highest order.
 


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