[Football] Mohammed 'Al' Fayed RIP

[dazzer6666]

Guy leading this indicated his distain for Harrods statement yesterday & strongly indicated collusion & that they were going after others

Well yes, the lawyer acting for the victims has to take that position. As I said, depends on the degree of involvement of others - still doesn’t mean the current owners are culpable though. Potentially tough on them.

 

[aolstudios]

Well yes, the lawyer acting for the victims has to take that position. As I said, depends on the degree of involvement of others - still doesn’t mean the current owners are culpable though. Potentially tough on them.

Why does he have to take that position?
He'd be on pretty dangerous ground if there wasn't substance to what he said

 

[BrightonCottager]

You will withdraw your comparison to TB though I hope

I did, before you posted.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I wonder how many of them did though, I struggle to think that they all did

Why would anyone carry on working for years after being raped or assaulted by the boss? Be as sarcastic as you like but I genuinely don’t understand why they would.

Because you are trying to add rationality to an unfathomable situation

 

[Triggaaar]

If only there had been some clues

Can never, ever be forgiven for this atrocity.

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[Triggaaar]

Threats? Coercion?

One victim was told she’d never get another job in London if she said anything.

That explains why she wouldn't speak out. But why stay at Harrods?

 

[Cheggers]

I've been waiting for this thread or similar to come up. I've not seen the documentary but have read the reports, including that the manager of the Fulham women's team (first professional one in the UK) were shielded from him. It'll be interesting to hear the views of the people who sit around me today and thank God we'll stop singing about him.

In my first post, I said he was divisive. He was also patently manipulative and by all accounts a despicable pervert and criminal. I only hope that that kind of behaviour could not be hushed up / ignored in any organisation these days.

But I'm not going to stop supporting Fulham or being thankful that he invested in us to get us into the Premier League.

Quite right. So long as his investment got you into the Premier League....I'm not sure I would be thankful. I would feel more than a little tarnished tbh.

 

[Flounce]

That explains why she wouldn't speak out. But why stay at Harrods?

I asked the same question and was called an “idiot” which is so NSC for some posters

I am at a complete loss as to why someone would stay at a company for years after something like this has happened to them.

 

[Triggaaar]

I asked the same question and was called an “idiot” which is so NSC for some posters

I am at a complete loss as to why someone would stay at a company for years after something like this has happened to them.

I was following up your question, because you asked it, and when quoted a different question was answered.

I think it's a fair question, although as I see others have said, we can't really know the answer, we don't know what choices people faced. But I wouldn't want someone to misread the question as in any way suggesting that if someone continued to work for an organistation, then the assault can't have been that bad, because I certainly wouldn't suggest that.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That explains why she wouldn't speak out. But why stay at Harrods?

Spiders webs spread far as do threats.
Try applying for a job at Harvey Nicks, or Selfridges and asked why you left your last job? References were cynical and manipulative.

I‘m puzzled as to why you & Flounce doubt the integrity of the victims. Fear of ‘retribution’ is powerful.

 

[Flounce]

I was following up your question, because you asked it, and when quoted a different question was answered.

I think it's a fair question, although as I see others have said, we can't really know the answer, we don't know what choices people faced. But I wouldn't want someone to misread the question as in any way suggesting that if someone continued to work for an organistation, then the assault can't have been that bad, because I certainly wouldn't suggest that.

In no way did I say or suggest that

 

[Triggaaar]

In no way did I say or suggest that

I know you didn't, but given that someone called you an idiot, I imagine some people read it like that.

I‘m puzzled as to why you & Flounce doubt the integrity of the victims. Fear of ‘retribution’ is powerful.

See.

A question was asked to gain further understanding TB, you shouldn't then assume that a victim's integrity has been called into question.

 

[Flounce]

I know you didn't, but given that someone called you an idiot, I imagine some people read it like that.




See.

A question was asked to gain further understanding TB, you shouldn't then assume that a victim's integrity has been called into question.

Quite, I have no idea why anyone would assume that I thought that when I was just querying why someone would stay at a company for years after being raped. I am genuinely confused and surprised that they would. I have no reason to think the footage and interviews I saw were not true given what a shithead Al Fayed appeared to be. The women were very clearly still traumatised by it years afterwards.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I know you didn't, but given that someone called you an idiot, I imagine some people read it like that.




See.

A question was asked to gain further understanding TB, you shouldn't then assume that a victim's integrity has been called into question.

You’ve answered that whilst I was replying.

All I can suggest is fear is paralysing, and threats, already recorded in police complaints, are now known.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You’ve answered that whilst I was replying.

All I can suggest is fear is paralysing, and threats, already recorded in police complaints, are now known.

Answering my own post about fear. Gemma is still terrified of a dead man.

How culture of fear at Harrods protected Mohamed Al Fayed

One woman says the head of security for the former Harrods boss threatened her when she tried to speak out.

www.bbc.co.uk