- Aug 8, 2005
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Lots of strange decisions today, from starting line up through to tactics and substitutions, BUT I still think he can turn it around. Buying a striker of proven quality is critical. If he fails to do that, then we're doomed.
lander14 said:Come on for f**k sake why don't you all jus support McGhee then we can all get behind the whole team and we might get some results?
Ever though of that?
McGhee IN!
Shame he can't manage players though.Kukev31 said:Mark McGhee has managed wonders.
Kukev31 said:McGhee has given us are highest finish whilst we have been at the Withdean. Tbh even if we do go down I will still be in the McGhee in camp. Where do people honestly expect us to finish, we have less money than any other club in the league and are less desirable than any other club in the league. If we stay up then Mark McGhee has managed wonders.
Well, he failed to award The Most Obvious Penalty In The History of the World against Kerry in the first half, which (for me) pretty much excused the remainder of his performance.lander14 said:Another point
THE REF! Blame McGhee but the ref was an absolute joke! How can we expect to win with a cheating ref like that!
Can I just say, that is a top top rant that has clearly been building up with you for a while !! But what it always comes back to (for me) is that:Gotsmanov said:Quite simply, because, when we do get behind the team, especially away from home, examples being away at Reading, Southampton, Luton, McGhee sticks his head even further up his arse and picks stupid teams / says we're not focussing on this game and looking towards the cup game at home. Fat lot of good that did today. Any manager who, with his team flirting with relegation, publicly states that he's not concentrating on the league match, instead looking towards the cup, should be ashamed of himself and must be trying to invite the sack.
I'm fed up with all this 'McGhee's doing all he can with the resources' bullshit. If he was, he'd coach some direction into the team, engender team spirit, and also coach some ability along the way.
He was a half-decent forward in his time, and yet it seems he's passed on none of his experience and judgement to the forward players - i'm quite sure the front players we have (McCammon apart - i'm struggling to think of a worse player to regularly feature for the Albion in the 18 years i've been watching) could actually score a fair few goals, but for a little forward coaching and direction. This is currently missing.
Furthermore, it's probably no surprise that our front players aren't scoring, since they rarely ever get a good run in the team to build confidence and experience. McGhee himself has no clue who his best two strikers are, and so how can we expect any two of 7 (CKR, Knight - now departed, Turienzo, Hart, Robinson, McPhee, McCammon) to form a partnership and understanding when there's no consistency.
I'm still frothing at the mouth in anger, and frankly awe, at the man's stupidity at Reading - giving a debut to Elphick.....(a) away from home (b) to a team top of the league (c) in a new formation that hadn't been played this season (d) playing in a position as one of three right-backs (TWO of which in the same right-back slot - what the f***?!).
McGhee is tactically inept, comes up with baffling squad selections (seriously, does he have a bingo machine at home and use it to pick his starting XI? Is the number 15 ball rigged?) / formations, never has a plan B, still hasn't worked out how to make a decent / timely substitution, and seems happy to drift along in a euphoric sense of apathetic inertia. Incredible. The team have no direction and he can't seem to inspire or motivate them - qualities that every previous manager we've had at Withdean (Hinsh apart) - so no excuses for lack of funds, small crowds, difficult environment - has had in abundance. Time to go.
Positives from today:
1 - it was free. Even so, I feel short-changed.
2 - it wasn't a league match.
3 - in parts, we showed we can play decent football - which means that (a) we are capable, and (b) that the next manager will be able to get a lot more out of the players and play decent footie more consistently.
London Irish said:The poll is of course changing as more and more people who actually saw the game today log on.
Either way, I'm going to enjoy supporting a squad of players giving their all in adversity
Gotsmanov said:Quite simply, because, when we do get behind the team, especially away from home, examples being away at Reading, Southampton, Luton, McGhee sticks his head even further up his arse and picks stupid teams / says we're not focussing on this game and looking towards the cup game at home. Fat lot of good that did today. Any manager who, with his team flirting with relegation, publicly states that he's not concentrating on the league match, instead looking towards the cup, should be ashamed of himself and must be trying to invite the sack.
I'm fed up with all this 'McGhee's doing all he can with the resources' bullshit. If he was, he'd coach some direction into the team, engender team spirit, and also coach some ability along the way.
He was a half-decent forward in his time, and yet it seems he's passed on none of his experience and judgement to the forward players - i'm quite sure the front players we have (McCammon apart - i'm struggling to think of a worse player to regularly feature for the Albion in the 18 years i've been watching) could actually score a fair few goals, but for a little forward coaching and direction. This is currently missing.
Furthermore, it's probably no surprise that our front players aren't scoring, since they rarely ever get a good run in the team to build confidence and experience. McGhee himself has no clue who his best two strikers are, and so how can we expect any two of 7 (CKR, Knight - now departed, Turienzo, Hart, Robinson, McPhee, McCammon) to form a partnership and understanding when there's no consistency.
I'm still frothing at the mouth in anger, and frankly awe, at the man's stupidity at Reading - giving a debut to Elphick.....(a) away from home (b) to a team top of the league (c) in a new formation that hadn't been played this season (d) playing in a position as one of three right-backs (TWO of which in the same right-back slot - what the f***?!).
McGhee is tactically inept, comes up with baffling squad selections (seriously, does he have a bingo machine at home and use it to pick his starting XI? Is the number 15 ball rigged?) / formations, never has a plan B, still hasn't worked out how to make a decent / timely substitution, and seems happy to drift along in a euphoric sense of apathetic inertia. Incredible. The team have no direction and he can't seem to inspire or motivate them - qualities that every previous manager we've had at Withdean (Hinsh apart) - so no excuses for lack of funds, small crowds, difficult environment - has had in abundance. Time to go.
Positives from today:
1 - it was free. Even so, I feel short-changed.
2 - it wasn't a league match.
3 - in parts, we showed we can play decent football - which means that (a) we are capable, and (b) that the next manager will be able to get a lot more out of the players and play decent footie more consistently.
Round and round in circles we go again.Repugnant Toad said:Now that's a rant and a half. Just needed to throw in a xxxx or two. An awful lot of good points as well - I'll never understand how someone who's managed as long as McGhee can be so tactically inept.
lander14 said:Another point
THE REF! Blame McGhee but the ref was an absolute joke! How can we expect to win with a cheating ref like that!
Gotsmanov said:Quite simply, because, when we do get behind the team, especially away from home, examples being away at Reading, Southampton, Luton, McGhee sticks his head even further up his arse and picks stupid teams / says we're not focussing on this game and looking towards the cup game at home. Fat lot of good that did today. Any manager who, with his team flirting with relegation, publicly states that he's not concentrating on the league match, instead looking towards the cup, should be ashamed of himself and must be trying to invite the sack.
I'm fed up with all this 'McGhee's doing all he can with the resources' bullshit. If he was, he'd coach some direction into the team, engender team spirit, and also coach some ability along the way.
He was a half-decent forward in his time, and yet it seems he's passed on none of his experience and judgement to the forward players - i'm quite sure the front players we have (McCammon apart - i'm struggling to think of a worse player to regularly feature for the Albion in the 18 years i've been watching) could actually score a fair few goals, but for a little forward coaching and direction. This is currently missing.
Furthermore, it's probably no surprise that our front players aren't scoring, since they rarely ever get a good run in the team to build confidence and experience. McGhee himself has no clue who his best two strikers are, and so how can we expect any two of 7 (CKR, Knight - now departed, Turienzo, Hart, Robinson, McPhee, McCammon) to form a partnership and understanding when there's no consistency.
I'm still frothing at the mouth in anger, and frankly awe, at the man's stupidity at Reading - giving a debut to Elphick.....(a) away from home (b) to a team top of the league (c) in a new formation that hadn't been played this season (d) playing in a position as one of three right-backs (TWO of which in the same right-back slot - what the f***?!).
McGhee is tactically inept, comes up with baffling squad selections (seriously, does he have a bingo machine at home and use it to pick his starting XI? Is the number 15 ball rigged?) / formations, never has a plan B, still hasn't worked out how to make a decent / timely substitution, and seems happy to drift along in a euphoric sense of apathetic inertia. Incredible. The team have no direction and he can't seem to inspire or motivate them - qualities that every previous manager we've had at Withdean (Hinsh apart) - so no excuses for lack of funds, small crowds, difficult environment - has had in abundance. Time to go.
Positives from today:
1 - it was free. Even so, I feel short-changed.
2 - it wasn't a league match.
3 - in parts, we showed we can play decent football - which means that (a) we are capable, and (b) that the next manager will be able to get a lot more out of the players and play decent footie more consistently.